Discussion: Kasich Claims 2nd In New Hampshire: 'The Light Overcame The Darkness'

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Gee - talk about mixed emotions. While on the one hand I’m glad to see a real alternative to Donald Trump, I’m also worried that Kasich could surge ahead and actually go the distance. Trump would be easy to beat in the general. Kasich - not so much.

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Kasich’s speech is ironic.

1 - He didn’t win. He came in 2nd place but he gave a damn victory speech.
2 - This is NH. He campaigned heavily, and it was his best bet outside of maybe Ohio.
3 - No one spent millions of dollars attacking him. In fact, he’s been a completely nobody. Which is EXACTLY why he came 2nd.
4 - Did I mention that he didn’t win, and came 2nd with about half the number of votes as the guy who is famous for firing people?

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Trump and Cruz can paint him as the king of the establishment, life time politician guy. he was state senator at 26, a congressman who was part of welfare reform that President Clinton passed (so they can say he’s chummy with the Clintons), obviously a governor, worked on Fox News, worked for Lehman brothers. so, there are attack points that the stupid base of the republican party, who are apparently anti-establishment, can feed on.

he scares me the most, for sure.

In 2008, the GOP nominated McCain and lost the general election.

“He lost, because he wasn’t a real conservative,” the bloggers and AM radio mouths said, “and because voters were unhappy with Bush, who didn’t govern as a conservative.”

In 2012, the GOP nominated Romney and lost the general election.

“He lost, because he wasn’t a real conservative,” the bloggers and AM radio mouths said. “Never again,” said the base voters, who went headhunting for “establishment” Republicans in the 2014 elections.

In terms of resume, demeanor, and ideological positioning versus the rest of the field, the 2016 GOP candidate who most resembles Mitt Romney is Kasich. Are GOP voters, who seem more eager than ever to be championed by a “real” conservative, going to give up their dream once again? I’m having trouble buying that.

But he is a real conservative. All the hype you have read from WaPo to the Boston Globe is PR for the new and improved Kay-SICK. He’s faith-based, pro-corporate, anti-government, pro-rich, anti-worker and an anti-choice extremest. He likes secrets, is anti-transparency, hires law breakers, bans reporters and generally dislikes media as much as anyone who disagrees with him. The MSM has not fact checked his claims about Ohio and they still love the Kasich of the 1990’s before he found religion.

Given his history of smug put-downs of constituents, rants at anyone who disagrees with him and his disdain for anyone just doing their job I don’t know how he survives the increased scrutiny. Whatever drug the campaign has him on to make him the happy warrior…

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Up to this point, every one of the big GOP “establishment” hopes has crashed and burned in abject fashion. Bush started out as the presumptive favorite, and many, many weeks ago descended to the bottom of the pack and has made a pathetic fool of himself since. Walker had his moments in the sun, but he wilted under the heat and revealed himself to be entirely not ready for prime time. Fiorina enjoyed a very brief boomlet after one of her debate performances, but just as quickly sunk back. Rubio’s ascent and fall was even more precipitous and damaging.

Now Kasich will be under the spotlight, both from the media and from the other candidates, especially Trump and Cruz. He’s famous for being prickly with both the media and voters out on the campaign trail, so it’ll be interesting to see if he can keep his temper under check.

I can’t wait until one reporter asks him why he put the leader of Ohio Right to Life to the state medical board, that usually gets the reporter banned from pressers.