Discussion: Justice Kagan On Botched Executions: Prisoners 'Burned Alive From Inside'

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Justice Samuel Alito called a “guerrilla war” against executions

Does he have the slightest idea, outside of his own pseudo-intellectual bubble, how ridiculous that sounds? If the companies that produce them are refusing to provide drugs, intended for anesthesia and patient care, as agents of “life-termination”, it’s because it’s contrary to medical ethics and morality.

But, then again, it’s perfectly fine for right-wing, fundamentalist Christians to conduct a guerrilla war against women by denying them access to birth-control because of their sincerely felt religious beliefs. A guerrilla war against executions! Really? So, then Amnesty International and Oxfam, bloodthirsty “thug” organizations that they are, must be conducting a guerrilla war against torture.

The hypocrisy of this man is thunder-striking.

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This is getting interesting. I’m beginning to think that the Supreme Court should not only be televised, it should be pay-per-view. That could probably cover a good chunk of its operating budget.

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Among the court’s liberals, Justice Elena Kagan said the way states carry out most executions amounts to having prisoners “burned alive from the inside.”

Justice Kagan might be disappointed to discover that at least four of her fellow justices as well as the majority of Republicans consider that to be a feature, rather than a bug.

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According to the pseudo-conservatives one hit off a joint will kill you.

They’ve been known to make mistakes.

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If you needed a more compelling reason for a Democrat in the WH…I cant think of one better than this. The next president will likely determine the direction of the court for a generation.

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Ralph, I looked on the Sigma-Aldrich website earlier today. That’s the company I purchased pentobarbital from back three years ago when I was still working. I was a scientist (and had the proper DEA and state drug licenses) then but am retired now. I could not find the drug in the form I used to purchase it listed in the company’s product list. It’s like it never existed. It’s not particularly difficult to make. This drug would be the drug of choice to render someone insensate during an execution. But it has other very legitimate medical uses. And it looks to me to be largely unavailable for even those uses. Are the companies actually refusing to offer it for sale even for legitimate medical reasons because it might be use for an execution?

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Could be; lots and lots of people who wok for chemical companies are against the death penalty.
If this is one way to stop it, why not do just that?
More power to them.

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Even though it has human uses, I always thought that pentobarbitol was primarily used for veterinary anesthesia and euthanasia. But I think it’s largely been replaced by propafol and ketamine. Perhaps, aside from executions, there’s not a lot of call for it anymore. I dunno.

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Another use ofpentobarbital was in biological buffers which are solutions designed to control the acid or base content of a solution. The problem with ketamine is a person could be very much aware yet be unable to mover or respond. Propafol, as we know from the Michael Jackson episode can be lethal all by itself. Propafol was used on me as an induction drug to gas anesthesia when I had knee replacement surgery and I can attest to its “lights out” effect.

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The Thunderer is never around when there is some righteous striking to be done.

He knows. He just doesn’t care.

“…abolitionist movement… guerrilla war…”

So it’s not just about law and the Constitution. It’s about the fantasy conservatives contrive.