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Whoās the guy on the left in that picture?
Gahā¦Iām having a posting issue. Itās Jason Bonham.
Thatā¦was so coolā¦
My musicological opinion is first that the work is clearly derivative and second that the music isnāt, in essence, the chord pattern but the realization of the pattern. Thatās why Pachelbelās Canon and Greensleeves are completely different works, even if derived from a modified Romanesca pattern. The bigger picture here is that music education in America is truly awful and not likely to get any better anytime soon.
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Check out this 17th century tune as itās played on a guitar.
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A Supreme Court ruling in 2014 over the movie āRaging Bullā opened the door to bring a copyright case at any time with damages only dating back three years and continuing into the future.
The Roberts/Scalia Court has much mischief to answer for ā¦
Oh,Jeez. Am I that old? Still live in the Zep Zone, though.
I disagree. The whole musical affect of it is pretty clearly derived from the Spirit work. And the argument that they were unfamiliar with the record is ludicrous when you consider that they actually covered a different song from the same album on their first tour. That said, they built an entirely different song around the initial riff, but they copped the riff from Randy Californiaā¦like most of their work.
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Indeed, the first Spirit album and Dr. Sardonicus are as good as anything anyone recorded in the 1960ās.
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Yeah, but I think you are rather over stating the case.
Here are a couple of interesting tidbits of informationā¦
First, Spirit was touring with Zeppelin when the wrote that song. So for Page to claim he never heard it before is really stretching the boundaries of disbelief.
Page was notorious for lifting pieces from people and not giving them credit. Perhaps one of the biggest cases in point is the bow used on Dazed and Confused.This is a song written by a musican Jack Holmes back in '66 of '67 (he copyrighted it and released it in '67). He too, opened for Pages bandā¦the Yardbirds at the timeā¦and Page clearly heard it and stole the entire songā¦including the titleā¦to be used by Zeppelin, and he never gave him any acknowledgement, let alone money.
How Many More Times is clearly taken from How Many More Years by Howlinā Wolf
Whole Lotta Love was stolen from Willie Dixon and Muddy Wattersā¦some differences, but they quite literally used entire stanzas of the lyrics.
The Lemon Song, while a bit harder to say itās a direct liftā¦is amazingly similar to The Killing Floor by Howlinā Wolf
In My Time of Dyingā¦is a very old gospel song, yet Zeppelin claimed it as their own. This song had already in fact been covered by lots of peopleā¦including Bob Dylan.
This wasnāt a simple chord progression issue. There is a striking similarity,and it use in the song is almost identical to how it is played by Spirit. But lets take a look at what was going on with Zeppelinās song writing, too.
Their first album was largely a compilation of old blues tunes and things Page had been working on from the Yardbirds (or stolen from people who opened for the Yardbirds). Page was under a contractual obligation when the Yardbirds dissolvedā¦that was the reason for forming Zeppelin. They quickly hit the states with Peter Grant as their manager and took the states by storm. While on that tour, they recorded the second albumā¦again, largely a lot of old blues numbers with some heavy lifting from others I noted above (Whole Lotta Love, for example). At this point, Zeppelin is a heavy blues influenced rock band, like most English bands at the time. And they kept right on touring with the release of the 2nd album.
This is when Spirit was opening for them.
After they finally came off of what was essentially a two year + tour, they headed off to a quaint little Welsh cottage on the estate of Roy Harper (he comes into this story later), where while resting up, they hold their first actual song writing episodes. This results in the music of Zeppelin III, the fourth album and large parts of Physical Graffiti (by PG, Pageās heroin habit was getting pretty severe, and he wasnāt up to writing lots of new material, plus he was getting deeply involved with the engineering sideā¦PG was the first one he did himselfā¦and it shows, both good and bad).
Soā¦he tours with Spirit, and coming immediately off that tour he sits down for the bands first big writing gig andā¦voila! Out comes Stairway to Heaven. Now, admittedly, he and Plant were tinkering with the song and the lyrics for several yearsā¦but the heart of the song was written in that same session in Wales.
Oh, and as for Roy Harper? Yeah, there is a song about him on Zeppelin III, but its not a rip off (Harper was actually a pretty amazing guitar player tooā¦I have seen some cuts of him and Page jamming together on the estateā¦excellent acoustic stuff). Butā¦years later after Zeppelin broke up, Page released an album with Harper (obscure by some incredible musicā¦well worth digging around for) and Tony Franklin (who went on to be Pageās bassist in The Firm). and lo and behold on the second side there is a songā¦Twentieth Century Man which is a direct lift musically from a Peter Townshend song (the music was written by David Gilmour of Pink Floyd, by Townshend at least gave him credit) White City. Not close toā¦its note for note the same song. But Gilmour got a PS Thanks, with no recognition for the actual song writing. so at least Page wasā¦improving?
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Dr. Sardonicus was an amazing album 
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Thatās great 
Does 20th century man have any relation to the kinks song 20th century man from muswell hillbillies?
Liked it better than the original.
Not in the least. Or the King Crimson Twentieth Century Schizoid Man. The lyrics I believe are Roy Harperās (he wrote most of the album, though there is a an old folk song there Hangman (not to be confused with Zeppelinās Gallowās Pole). Its a really great, but extremely obscure album, actually.
And yes, its the Roy Harper from Hatās Off to Roy Harper
The only British guitarist that I really make a point to keep up with after all these years is Richard Thompson.
Youāve got me intrigued @ Harper, though.
He isnāt really well known, but he has been steadily pumping out music for literally decades.