Discussion: Judge: Voter Fraud Alarmist Group Can’t Drag Election Officials Into Lawsuit It’s Facing
I love the sound of a good bench slap.
Good. It’s about time these scumbags had to face the music. Adams and his ilk have been lying for years. Adams was in a position to know better but decided that his facts must be true, in spite of evidence to the contrary.
edit It was also nice to see Hans Von Spakovsky get knocked around by a judge as well. These people deserve all the public scorn that can be heaped on them.
I hope this lawsuit drains the coffers and dries up their funding.
PILF, sounds about right. People I’d Like to Fuck-off!!
This was so choice. I never met a group so hell-bent on cookie jar excuses as these clowns.
Unless it was Jeff Denham of the California 10th. This prick got so killed by absentee ballots that he snarled in rage about voter fraud.
But it was HELPLESS rage.
So can some explain to me why the Virginia Dept. of Elections handed over voter roll information to a third non-governmental party? I wasn’t happy when Kobach and his shame commission asked state to send the commission their voter rolls,but at least that was government sponsored. And I know you can in some state buy voter information, but where is the privacy concern being looked after?
Does not happen often enough.
Oh, I’m hoping to enjoy much more of that. Maybe Robert Mueller will be present for a noteworthy slapdown.
More important, they need to be bankrupted.
That was the flash of inspiration that Morris Dees, of the SPLC, had many years ago - the justice system couldn’t or wouldn’t deal with groups like the KKK, so he started filing civil suits and taking their property and cash. Very effective.
From one angle, I agree. But remember that ostensibly “conservative” warriors have adopted the same tactic as part of their unlimited warfare. Some states (and other nations) have adopted anti-SLAPP (strategic lawsuit against public participation) laws to limit such abuse of the courts. If a judge is persuaded that you’re suing for this purpose, you hurt your effort.
There’s a difference between trying to bankrupt someone by making them run up huge legal fees, and trying to bankrupt someone by making them compensate others for the damage they’ve caused.
Certainly. But if the other side’s lawyer claims you’re attempting the first goal, how do you prove you’re attempting the second goal when your activist org has filed two dozen similar suits?
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I believe this is public information. That’s how all the special interest groups find you each election season.
I wondered how much is public in my state (NY), so I searched and the best hit was NYSVoter’s Voter Registration Search , which has a “ny.gov” state-government address. I entered my own name, county, date of birth and ZIPcode. It found my database record and displayed home address, political party, voter status (“Active”), polling place, and my voting district numbers for congressional, state-Senate, state-Assembly, county, and local elections.
I don’t know whether Voter Status gets changed after a biennial election where someone doesn’t vote, or whether that requires more: maybe a series of non-votes, or a conflicting registration in another NY county, or a challenged ballot.
It doesn’t tell you, of course, for whom the person actually voted. If the “Active” status means they voted, and if they’re registered R or D rather than independent or minor-party, then this page gives you an over-90% indicator of their probable votes for the Senate and House.
As for the privacy concern, if you’ve harvested thousands of name, ZIP, and DOB from any hacked website’s data, you can get NY targets’ home address and party registration with just a ZIP-to-county match and this website. Probably many states have similarly exploitable ways to query voting registration data. But stalkers and extremists have many ways to do this sort of thing.
Right. That’s never supposed to be in the voter roll information, let alone made public.
The “secret ballot” is one of those foundational ideas which don’t appear in the Constitution, not even in the Declaration of Independence, but which get cited in patriotic oration with bunting hung everywhere.
I remember hearing tales in the 2016 elections of people getting Facebook messages saying we know you haven’t voted but your friends did, trying to shame pressure them into voting. I dunno but I doubt the apps actually had real-time access even to whether someone early-mail-in-voted, let alone whether they live-voted during Election Day.
From the Wikipedia article on “secret ballot”: