Discussion for article #239875
“But but states’ rights … Northern agression … outsiders … liberals …”
“What’s your point, counsel?”
“Just shut up, boy.” 
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Thank Dog for the elected city and county officials in Austin / Travis County. An oasis of logic and reason in the desert that is Texas Wingnuttery.
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but…but…but your honor, what about the Gospel of Margaret Mitchell?
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I have a different take on this. I spent some time in Texas as a young man- US Air Force. I will not willingly go back to Texas, at least not lightly. I’m a native Californian, member of the California Democratic Party, active in politics. I think the Confederate battle flag is often used in a vile manner and I don’t think it should be flown.
And I regard the statues and other memorials in a different light.
The statues and other memorials seem to me to commemorate the actual history of the region. I don’t see any reason to knock them all down. The Civil War was 150 years ago. It’s time- it’s way past time- that we all got over it, North as well as South. That was then. This now. Let the statues alone.
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The statue won’t be “knocked down.” It will be moved to the Briscoe Historical Center on the UT campus. Perfect solution. Removing the statue from the prominence of the main campus mall and placing it where it belongs - as a relic of history.
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I’m consistently amazed at the number of attorneys who seem to have missed class the day that “standing” was discussed. Being butt-hurt doesn’t magically confer standing upon your client.
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I need some bronze for my new canon…
Travis County District Court Judge Karin Crump ruled Thursday that the Sons of Confederate Veterans were not allowed to sue to stop the statue’s relocation.
Sons of Confederate Veterans? The last Confederate veteran, coincidentally also named “Crump”, died in 1951 at the age of 104. I can’t help but wonder how many actual, genuine, sons of Confederate veterans are still living. It’s likely that there are none remaining.
If you’re not one of them, you need to join an organization with a name that isn’t so silly.
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I think there are still scholarships at UT for the “sons” of confederate veterans.
A bigger deal in TX is to be a Daughter of the Republic of Texas–to prove with documentation that you had blood relatives in TX when it was a Republic. This matters ALOT in certain circles.
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Do you think the same applies to the Daughters Of The American Revolution(DAR)?
There probably aren’t any. To be a member,you have to be able to prove that you are a lineal or collateral descendant of a Civil War veteran that served honorably. I might add that most of the SCV chapters aren’t the ones who stick Confederate flags in the back of their trucks and parade through black neighborhoods. They do re-enactments,cemetery cleanups,battlefield preservation,historical markers,educational seminars etc. etc. I understand that some are politically active. Prospective members can visit chapters as guests and can choose which Chater they wish to join. Chapter membership is not required though. One can just be a member of the umbrella SCV organization if they so choose.
How about the Daughters of Hawaii?
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Another racist organization, only lily white need apply, if you can’t pass the brown bag test forget it… my brother wanted to get his daughter approved as a member. They required ALL females within the family to join or none, at least that was the initial take. When my daughter refused after some 3 weeks of harassment they seems to drop the hard sell and she has not heard from them since. Having a Great Great Great Great (forget how many) Grandfather a Colonel on Washington’s Staff makes for good reading of family history but it is not something to obsess over.
It’s not being melted down, it’s being removed from a spot of honor where everyone’s got to see it to a “campus educational exhibit,” an eminently appropriate place. We need to remember our history – though un-whitewashed, as it were – but there’s every reason to stop implicitly and explicitly honoring its clear villains, and subjecting many of our fellow citizens to the public glorification of those who saw them as chattel.
Yes, that name is equally silly, and perhaps more so. Unlike Confederate veterans, who were probably capable of procreation, I’m pretty sure the American Revolution never had any daughters at all.