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Old times there are not forgotten. Look away, look awayâŚ
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Maybe he got the answer from those guys he sent down to Hawaii and who could not believe what they were finding.
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GOP to Josh: âStop being so Earnest. Weâre just protecting the priorities of our pin-headed supporters.â
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Itâs the simple truth. There are very few Republicans left, certainly not at the national level, who seem to give a damn whether what they say is factually true or not. Their voters seem not to care about that either. Itâs disgraceful and dangerous to the future of the country and the sooner theyâre marginalized as a regional and sectarian party the sooner we can start repairing the damage.
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My wife frets over Trumpâs â what will be an ephemeral popularity. I keep reminding her he has likely peaked,the people supporting him are dumb as frigginâ rocks and he may end up helping the nominated Dem candidate by running as a 3rd party.
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âEarnest noted that people who believe the President, a Christian, is a secret Muslim are the base of Trumpâs formidable support.â
âWe, the white G-d fearing citizens of Rock Ridge wish to express our extreme displeasure with your choice of Sheriff. Please remove him immediately!â
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âThose same members of Congress blocked immigration reform,â he said. âThose same members of Congress opposed reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act. Those same members of Congress couldnât support a simple funding bill because they are eager to defend the Confederate flag. So those are the priorities of todayâs Republican Party and they will continue to be until someone in the Republican Party decides to summon the courage to stand up and change it.â
I just love this guy. Heâs absolutely right that itâs not just about Trump or that one supporter. There is a disease within the GOP that demonizes everyone, including the Pope, who doesnât agree with them, look like them, or worship as they do. Itâs an absolute hate for anything they consider an âotherâ. I donât see it changing anytime soon, but I do believe that after Obama is no longer president, as the media softens on him and Republicans can no longer veil racism in politics, we will begin to see the public (ie white America) start to acknowledge some of this for what it is.
I also think that if the GOP loses next year, doesnât perform well in 2018, and performs even worse in 2020, we will see a concerted effort to address the problem within itâs ranks. 2020 is key. If they do badly that year, a redistricting year, they lose their stranglehold over the House. At that point, theyâll have to change because theyâll have no choice but to do so.
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He would also end up helping the nominated Dem candidate if heâs the nominated Republican candidate. I would also remind her that the GOP needs at least 30% of the Latino population to win, and heâs currently got the highest unfavorables with Latinos, minorities in general, women, Democrats, and Independents. He may have a path to the nomination, but thereâs not even a bread crumb trail to the WH.
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Good point. Nominated or not,itâs a Dem win.
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Trump is merely the canvas on which the shy GOP is inadvertently painting a portrait of itself.
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I wish these RWNJs would make up their minds, first they ranted and rave about Obama being in Rev. Wrightâs church and what a bad influence it was on him and now it turns out they think he is and was a Muslim all along. Good lord these people are insane.
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âMr. Trump himself would be the first to tell you heâs got the biggest base of any Republican politician these days,â he told reporters. âNow, it is too bad that he wasnât able to summon the same kind of patriotism that we saw from Sen. McCain, who responded much more effectively and directly when one of his supporters at one of his campaign events about seven years ago raised the same kind of false claims.â
Take a look at the exchange:
McCain passed his wireless microphone to one woman who said, "I canât trust Obama. I have read about him and heâs not, heâs not uh â heâs an Arab. Heâs not â " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:
âNo, maâam. Heâs a decent family man [and] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and thatâs what this campaignâs all about. Heâs not [an Arab].â
The problem here isnât that some people insist on believing Obama is an Arab and/or Muslim. The problem is that calling someone an Arab and/or Muslim is the equivalent of calling someone a thief or a terrorist. As a Jew, this kind of mass-demonization sickens me.
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This post addresses the multiple problems we face, for in addition to the fight to keep the White House, we are going to have to address the process of forming (or forming from the G.O.P. remnants) some sort of halfway sensible opposition party.
Although Ford was the sort of person who did some things that I did not approve of in the least (like pardoning Nixon), I did not believe that the election of Ford and Dole in 1976 would result in a Dystopian nightmare (precisely the scenario of ANY of the present G.O.P. hopefuls ascending to the WH).
HOW could this country reverse this process?
HOW could this country do this in the face of Talk-Radio, FOX, a near-dead MSM and a Koch-funded PBS, with at least 1/3 of the population unable to conceptualize the problem?
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Keep it up, Josh! This vile party is much weaker than it looks, but only by ending the free pass the GOP has usually gotten for its racist conspiracy-pandering can we administer the thumping these guys so richly deserve. There are, obviously, a lot of Republican base voters who fully endorse this BS, but the party also depends on its ârespectableâ voters who close their eyes, hold their noses, and end up backing Trump and his kind. Those are the people who we should be aiming at - make them squirm, make voting Republican the kind of thing decent people wonât admit to.
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Well, a crushing defeat and a spell of wandering in the wilderness has often helped parties to do a bit of soul-searching, ask what really went wrong, maybe hit the reset button and get back to first principles without the loony extremism. The Democrats after 1972 come to mind. And sometimes parties simply collapse. The whole nexus you point out is a closed and myth-based system and evidently not great at adapting to a changing reality. Limbaugh is losing air, Beck is not what he was, and most of all you just canât deny reality forever, it will bite you in a vulnerable spot.
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Booyah! Preach it! Take 'em to choych!
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Hell, a significant percentage of the population believes in angels, ghosts, astrology, creationismâŚJesus on a fucking dinosaur! I doubt 1/3 of our good citizens could find the northern hemisphere on a giant globe! The MSM is in lock-step collusion with the right wing in granting validity to the most ignorant beliefs, rumors and myths as a balance against reality.
Reality is not a belief system and it sure as hell isnât part of what has passed for conservative thought in the last 30 years. I want to believe that the republicans havenât a chance in hell of gaining the White House. The thought of a republican triumvirate with the current crop of ethically challenged, intellectually vacuous candidates and office holders is too awful to imagine.
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Thatâs the thing that most excites me about Trump as the nominee. I donât think too many college educated, upper middle class, suburbanites are going to be willing to admit to their daughterâs soccer coach that theyâre voting for Trump. I think a fair percentage of that cohort would be extremely embarrassed to have Trump as the nominee to the point that I suspect many would deny being Republicans, and it would be the final push off the pot from voting Republican.
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So very close to Kanye West who promises to deliver himself to us for the 2020 presidential run.