Discussion for article #225487
It is extremely gauling to me that republican judges can issue any sort of batshit crazy ruling they want, and when it gets overturned…it immediately gets couched as a partisan false equivalence.
Stewart was dead on about the Stop sign though.
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The court which upheld ACA subsidies had an analogy in their ruling which I’ll paraphrase:
Suppose a man says to a friend, “Here’s $20 to get us a pizza from Dominos. You can also go to Pizza Hut.”
A literal interpretation says the friend can only spend the $20 at Dominos, and he can go to Pizza Hut but has to leave empty-handed. A reasonable interpretation is that he can spend the $20 at either pizzeria.
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You of course realize that TPM was among the worst of these offenders right? About the only place that I read what I would consider non sensationalist reporting on this case was Vox.
I understand that you are all trying as hard as you can to generate clicks in the 24 hour news environment, but panicked, over the top headlines and stories are only appealing to your most emotional readers.
The more sane and thoughtful reporting on this case stated the obvious. This wasn’t a “major blow” or a “threat” to The ACA. The full court will almost certainly overturn it, and it’s more than likely that given Roberts earlier ruling on it, that he isn’t going to 1. suddenly decide to gut the law, and 2. take away insurance from what will be tens of millions of Americans when or even IF they hear this case.
Please report responsibly, this is your duty as journalists. Trust me - the vast majority of your readership under 50 (and probably a good deal of those over 50) are turned off by this.
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Joshua Micah Marshall wrote that the Supreme Court probably won’t take the case, since the top lower courts will be in agreement before it reaches them. But that the Supreme Court will probably strike down ACA subsidies if they do take the case.
Josh himself very well might have - but the headlines here at TPM, which is his place, did not. Josh doesn’t get a pass if the site he runs was just as bad. Sorry.
“Appeals Court Deals Major Blow To Obamacare”
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How did the judges get out of the shower that morning, when the shampoo bottle said “lather, rinse, repeat”?
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Boehner is such an a-hole. His comment that this shows that the law is totally broken and can’t be fixed is total BS, and he knows it. How do people like him say stuff like that and live with themselves knowing they are so blatantly lying and misinforming the public? It’s crazy.
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Didn’t see that, but John Cassidy at The New Yorker had a very calm assessment to the effect that the en banc review would probably uphold the subsidies, and the Supreme Court probably would as well.
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Where’s this age 50 number coming from?
Pot
Kettle
Black
I tried to inject sanity but failed in the face of panicky flaming heads.
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Thank you for your post! I was extraordinarily disgusted with much of the left wing media, particularly TPM. This was no “huge blow” to Obamacare. It didn’t even amount to a minor setback since it will go onto the full DC Circuit who, with an 8-5 Democratic majority, will most certainly side with the administration. As Josh explained, SCOTUS is unlikely to take up the case since there won’t be any need to settle a dispute among the lower courts.
This was sensationalism at it’s worst, and a lot of people were unnecessarily frightened. This isn’t just political. For some people, losing their insurance is a matter of life or death. Losing their subsidies would be a death sentence. Shame on all those in the media, especially TPM, who blew this story up and scared the shit out of a lot of innocent people.
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But that the Supreme Court will probably strike down ACA subsidies if they do take the case.
I really doubt that. Roberts had the chance to strike down the law on a real substantive issue that people genuinely disagreed on, before it took effect, and he didn’t. Do you really thing he would strike it based on such a patently absurd reasoning now that it will affect millions of people? Even with all my cynicism about the court I don’t. If they had taken this up before the previous case, I might have though so.
Excuse me but Obamacare has been there and done that. Obamacare has been down this road if we all remember. That little website glitch that was definitely the end of O-care and the slow sign-ups (that went berserk quickly after) that meant something, I forget what. O-care has been to court a few times, both public and private and is a proven winner. Just ask the insured, the people that it actually affects, not the Obama haters or money before people crowd, the intended customers that have fact based evidence to go on.
The NO-care policy of the Republicans is why we have Obamacare and desperately needed it. DON’T EVER forget that!
2X cancer survivor out.
The quote about the stop sign… money
I expect to find many future opportunities to use this as the anti-anything-obama rhetoric continues.