IF he can win the Dem primary, he can with the Presidency. I say that because he can capture at some of the Midwestern States that went for Rump that the other candidates just can’t get to.
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You know, I really liked Joe as Obama’s VP, but it really seems like he’s almost daring the voters of the Democratic Party to vote for someone else.
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Yeah that’s what they said about John Kerry - the other “safe” choice.
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I would agree. The Rust Belt, with possibly the exception of the new Ohio as an apparent 1950s Southern state, will support a Democrat, I fully believe. PA was a completely anomaly in 2016 (duh) and it’s not going to go red again. Same for Michigan, and I hope, for the sake of the poor, Scott-Walked-induced-PTSD residents of Wisconsin.
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We are going to need every Democrat enthusiastic this election. If a large block of Democrats have to hold their noses to vote for the nominee then Trump will probably be re-elected.
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Trump may be so toxic by election day that any Dem could win, but I agree that Biden is still a very risky candidate. He’s “safe” but he doesn’t excite people, and we need that to get people off their collective butts and vote on election day.
Politico ran a story recently about how weird it was that he polls so far ahead, but he’s not getting big numbers of people showing up when he appears somewhere. I’m hoping we’re still in the zone where people are responding to polls mostly on name recognition.
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As opposed to who else who could have won 2004?? Dean was a strong contender to a point.(I was a Dean supporter). Bush just had build in strengths that put Dem candidates at a disadvantage.
@zenicetus I said this before and I’m still with it: this may be one of the few elections where “enthusiasm” isn’t necessarily a key barometer of being electable. The atmosphere in the country is quite different now than at any other time
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While Hyde was spearheading the impeachment of President Bill Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky affair, it was revealed that Hyde himself had conducted an extramarital sexual affair with Cherie Snodgrass who was also married. Hyde admitted to the affair and attributed the relationship as a mere “youthful indiscretion”. He was 41 years old and married when the affair occurred. Hyde said the affair ended when Snodgrass’ husband confronted Mrs. Hyde. At the time, Snodgrass was also married and had three children.
What a guy that Henry Hyde was. And what a fucking hypocrite!
This is the man who we have a law named after circumscribing how federal dollars can be spent on women’s reproductive health for those in need and without other means. A man that couldn’t keep his own dick in his pants while married, and while going after a sitting President for the exact same shit. This is who Biden thinks has it right. Just shameful.
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People like the “idea” of Biden because he “seems” safe, but part of that is trauma caused by Trump. I think Biden could win GOP votes but at a VERY steep price - i.e., alienating a lot of the base. That probably means he wouldn’t win us the Senate.
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absolutely.
IMHO Clinton lost because she had no Plan B in case of an October Surprise – or because her campaign had become so bloated and inflexible, it could not adjust to the Comey email thing quickly (Oh, we can’t go to the Rust Belt tomorrow, we’ve already spent $100K on a rally in Phoenix!" type stuff).
We don’t need Biden to win in those states – all we need is Trump on the other side, and “not Hillary” on ours.
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I think that’s a good chance. It is weird, I agree. Doesn’t make sense.
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Actually, my biggest fear is that if Biden got elected he would pull a Gerald Ford and pardon tRump so the country could move forward in some kind of phony bi-partisany way, in order to preserve the Republic from tearing itself apart. I could see him suggesting something along those lines just to get votes too.
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I’ve yet to see a single example of Biden’s campaign appearing to be nimble, quick-on-its feet. Mostly, both he and the campaign seem to be REacting, explaining and unprepared for what seem to me to be pretty predictable questions. It’s incredibly worrisome.
I don’t want to join the Joe-pile-on because I don’t dislike him and think many–not all–of the attacks on him are overblown, but he hasn’t responded very well to any of them. IIRC his previous Presidential campaigns were also plodding affairs with unclear vision, even before he opens his mouth and dumb things emerge (which should be small potatoes but you can bet the farm that the media will give his inevitable gaffes equal or MORE attention than the administration’s ongoing show of horrors). He and his staff need to evolve their organization and damn-quick if he’s going to take on trump. A slow, old-fashioned, reactive campaign to beat Bob Dole in 1996 isn’t going to cut it.
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It’s past time to bury the Hyde Amendment, the Hastert rule, and other lame ideas Republicans have foisted upon America.
Health insurance should not be a place for radical ideological warfare, but instead, it should focus on, you know, health. It should be about covering a person’s medical needs -all their needs including birth control as well.
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yep. I’ve seen this movie before. Biden has run before.
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But Trump also has built in advantages (incumbency, economy, etc.). It’s fair to compare 2020 with 2004, and Kerry with Biden.
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Oh jesus, I hadn’t thought of THAT nightmare. With the f-ing media already apparently anointing him, it’s disheartening. He’s going to make a ton of gaffes, because that’s his nature, and everyone will pile on.
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Let me just say - it feels just like that. Maybe my feels don’t matter but man Biden as the nominee just feels exactly like 2004 to me.
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Not sure about the Senate. I think Biden has some coattails especially seeing as some of the GOP Senators really are vulnerable. (I’m thinking Tillis, McSally). I genuinely think that what has the potential to save Biden from himself is his selection of VP. Totally agree about the emotional wound that the country’s suffering from by Rump and how Biden gains most of his support from that.
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If he’s going to propose that I hope he does it before the Dem nominee is chosen.
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