Discussion: Ivanka Defends Her Emails, Says There's 'No Equivalency' With Clinton Scandal

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I’d be surprised if .gov email was any more secure than gmail, although in the former case your email is not being read by google bots.

The more impotrtant issue is that government business is in theory a public record that must be preserved. She had an obligation to copy official email to government servers within a certain time frame.

My guess is that like all criminal enterprises, the Trump family has protocols for communicating about their shadier activities that do not involve email or other traceable records.

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All of my emails are stored and preserved. There were no deletions.

Really? She’s never deleted a personal or spam email? She expects us to believe that?

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She used a privately owned communications device to receive and transmit ( via the airways ) official information. Clinton used a privately owned server to receive transmit ( via the internet ) official information. That is 100 % equivalent.

Chatter about deletions and archiving are meant to obfuscate the real issue: they both did the same thing. With one exception. Use of private devices for official communications is not new. Colin Powell used a private server when in the same position as HRC. He recommended that HRC do it. The RNC email mess was a big deal and involved the use of private addresses not hardware, to shuffle official info around and avoid transparency. Damn near every GOP’er did it. But GOP’ers don’t go after GOPers so not much was done about those things. When Clinton used a private server it was technically legal as long as she archived all official in and outs on it. She appears to have done so. Comey had no beef with that issue ( his beef, mostly partisan, was security which would apply to Ivanka as well ). In order to use the “illegal server” talking point Chaffetz ad Gowdy went right to work to legislate against using a private server. We don’t have ex post facto laws in the USA but ex post facto spin is OK. The big difference in HRC / Ivanka is what Clinton did was stupid but technically legal but what Ivanka did was also stupid but technically illegal.

There’s no way to know if Ivanka’s cell phone transmissions were monitored. That’s easy to do, leaves no footprint and she’s a likely target for those that do it. There’s no way to determine if she “deleted” items form that phone like contacts or text messages without looking at the damn thing. I don’t think that’s been done. Comey admitted that there was no compromise of HRC’s server and her deletions were legal and permitted by the DOJ / FBI.

So again we have a situation in which the Democratic side has been subject to micro scrutiny, illegally in some cases, ( like the DNC hack ) with no equivalent exposure of the GOP’ers side. Can you imagine what was on that RNC server? I’d love to see Cruze’s mail concerning Trump. Or Jeb’s. Or any of the other candidates mail concerning Cruze. All we have is Podesta’s. And in this case we’ve gone cluster by cluster through HRC’s server but are taking Ivanka’s word about her phone.

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too right

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nailed it

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I have icons on my iPad but not on my (non-Apple) laptop. It’s annoying because you have to mouse over the little boxes that have replaced the icons.

Maybe it depends on the OS.

@zillacop

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The icons are missing for Prime members, too, or is it just me? All I see is a row of small rectangles that are all alike. I have to hover over the boxes to know what function is there. It’s a mess. Why is it taking so long to fix?

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As I have been saying, the Southern Evangelicals have added an XIth Commandment

  1. Notwithstanding any of the above, always always always and in any case IOKIYAR.
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Report it to TPM, the squeaky wheel.

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Exactly correct, with one additional item: it was NOT illegal at the time Hillary did it. The law did not change until AFTER she left office.

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I think I made that point.

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I used it as an experiment in randomness. If I just randomly clicked blank boxes long enough, eventually, I’d get the function I wanted. Randomly typing monkeys and all that.

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You did, except for the actual change in the law. It wasn’t just a difference in compliance – the law governing Ivanka’s use of private email/private server literally did not exist when Hillary was SoS.

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OK. I’ll start. She is colossally, titanically stupid.

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Claim Rated: TRUE.

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The law is the law. Arrest her, and send her children to a detention camp. That will prevent future violations of the law.

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Nope. I’m running macOS Mojave 10.14.1. I had the icons over the weekend but lost them yesterday.

I have the icons on Safari and like @lizzymom I have them on my iPhone running Firefox.

Running Firefox on both my MacBook and iPhone. No icons on the laptop, all icons on the iPhone.

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Hmmmmm…interesting but I still have them on my iPad right now. iPhone too. Curioser and curioser.

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Ivanka didn’t use the word, “scandal.” Why is it in the headline? She was cleared. By the FBI. Why do people get away with referring to this as a scandal?

Everything trump does is a scandal, but they don’t even call the “pussy-grabbing” incident a scandal. It is universally referred to as the “tape!” Sick of this crap!

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My Dog this is another example of Trepublicans being stupid about the optics. We’ve had three long years of tRump yelling “Lock her up” and now Princess tRump doesn’t see the hypocrisy.

Maybe we need a sorting hat to determine who can id hypocrisy and who can’t, thus starting with the first step to sort who belongs in which political party.

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