Your initial post I replied to:
“See, tall steel buildings do collapse from fire…ROCKET FIRE”
Yes, you started this. And you cited Richard Gage later, which is like citing Alex Jones. 9/11 Truth has told more lies than Dick Cheney
Let me guess, you think the bin Laden hit was “staged” by the “gubbermint” too?
“Official Story”. Umm, the earth being more than 6,000 years old is also an “official story”. Your point? When 99.999% of professionals agree on something, its’ a pretty “official story”.
Blaming me for your histrionic, over-the-top bellicose reaction?
Well, that seems to be your only option now.
Okay. Ready for this?
My comment was a jab at 9/11 truthers, and their resistance to the theory that fire brought down the towers, as well as a bit of snark regarding the Israeli war on Gaza. At the time I made that comment, I had no idea that a raving 9/11 official story activist would go berserk and attack me for it. One you launched into your 9/11 diatribe, I knew I was dealing with a feverish activist as wild-eyed and aggressive as any 9/11 truther I have ever come across.
Your ultra-defensiveness regarding all things 9/11 has caused you to attack me needlessly. Much like the U.S. invasion of Iraq. All for nothing. No WMDs. On top of that you insult me over and over–for what? Because of your pathological hatred of anyone you perceive as a truther?
You failed here, mr. comments. PLEASE do better next time.
Snark? So why did you cite Richard Gage and all the professionals and say I am only one person? Now you change your tune? What happened, you watched the videos I posted and realized Richard Gage is a con man that was yanking your chain? Well, good for you.
Cut the BS. We all make mistakes. I admit when I am wrong. Why can’t you since you are in this case? No biggie, but don’t talk to me like I am an idiot when you are discussing my field of expertise please, claiming I need to listen to Richard Gage and his “experts”, and then claim it was “snark”. Yes, they are experts at exploiting 9/11, just like Cheney did. No different in their attitudes, but Cheney’s attitude just blew up our economy and cost tens of thousands of lives.
Oh, by the way, did you know that Mark Loizeaux and the people at Controlled Demolition STILL to this day receive death threats from 9/11 Truth scum and their nut followers? These people preach hate, no different than Birther’s. So please don’t ever cite those clowns. Be smart.
Not in the slightest, even though you wish I would. You’re just an internet bully who’s been bested and frustrated. Give it a rest. You’re not all that. You’ve shown nothing to me that indicates you have any special knowledge other than how to make an enormous ass of yourself online.
Yes, I agree. And just to be fair, I’m going to tell you what your problem is, and how you are wrong. Are you ready? Good.
Your problem is that you see people in two categories:
But guess what? I don’t belong to either camp. I (and anyone with intellectual honesty) can see the GAPING holes in the official story. The 9/11 commission report was NOT comprehensive, leaving unanswered questions. You and other defenders of the official story conveniently ignore those gaping holes.
The truthers, on the other hand, are of wide spectrum–from those who have no actual theories, to those who proclaim 9/11 to be a 100% inside job. You, apparently, see anyone who does not believe as you do as a member of that camp.
What do I believe? Nothing. I see a few verifiable facts concerning 9/11, and a whole lot of speculation–from the mundane to the fantastic. I buy none of the theories as factual, since they are not provable, and are purely speculation.
You will just have to accept that not everyone fits into your us and them scenario. I have seen and heard and read what many truthers have to say, as well as what defenders of the official story have to say. Some of the theories that truthers state as fact are unbelievably creative, but lack evidence to support them–they can be crazy. However, I have never been attacked by a truther for any comments regarding 9/11 like you have attacked me. Your attitude is shameful, similar to so many official story scum bags that inhabit the internet. Official story goons attack anyone that won’t pledge allegiance to their ridiculous and ignorant approach to understanding 9/11.
Because 2,240 professional engineers and architects trump the wild-ass opinions of one crackpot ‘ex-engineer’ on the internet, that’s why.
I have seen no credentials that prove you are anything but an internet crank. When you stop talking like an idiot, I’ll stop treating you like one.
The 9/11 Commission Report was a whitewash. And pages were blanked out that showed Pakistani ISI and Saudi Royal family ties. No kidding. What does that have to do with the collapses? The 9/11 Report did not analyze the collapses, so why are you talking about that? So right there you have no idea what you are even referencing. The NIST report, along with DOZENS of reports by independent engineering organizations all came to the same conclusion. NO ENGINEERING report was EVER produced to contradict them. None. Just some clown ranting about “magic dust”.
The Bush Admin also clearly covered up all the warnings they ignored, etc. George Tenet was described as having his “hair on fire” saying “something big is going to happen” by Richard Clarke. They were clearly getting warnings and not paying attention. Might have even been deliberate, but you could not ever prove that. But the reality is that it was a bunch of nuts that flew planes into buildings, and the buildings fell from fire. The collapses were never studied in the 9/11 Report, nor were they supposed to be. So you are just being real silly.
No, there are not over 2,000 professional A’s and E’s on Gage’s site, that is a lie. He lists “site engineers” and “field engineers” as “Professional Engineers”. No, on a job site they are clerks who have NOTHING to do with actual engineers. Usually some kid hired to process Submittal packages. It would be like Radar on MASH saying he was a “surgeon”. He also lists many people who are “degreed only”. That means they have NOT passed their AIA or PE tests, and they would be breaking the Law if they tried to practice as professional AIA’s or PE’s. And he also lists things like “Soils Engineer”. Wow, how is that relevant?
He has about 40 actual structural engineers, out of a few hundred thousand globally. Now, can you tell me which one did a study on how this was done? No. Because they have not. Orly Taitz is a lawyer. George W Bush has a Masters in Business Admin (the only President in history who does). Does that make them smart?
And as I said, there is NOT ONE building demo contractor or expert on the face of the earth who thinks WTC was some kind of pre-planned controlled demo. They laugh at people who do. It’s out of a Comic Book. And your way of disproving me was to post a guy…who agreed with me. Yet for some reason you classify me as the one who is “one man against all others”. You actually have it backwards. It’s some con men vs reality.
Blah-blah-blah says self-appointed internet crank 9/11 comment policeman.
Save your wind–you’re not converting anyone to your church of crazy here. You’re just a asshole internet bully, going out of your way to be a bigger asshole, spewing insane 9/11 rubbish like a typical * 9/11 official story* scum bag. You’re just lying out of your ass over and over. Brow-beating is your go-to tactic, like all internet assholes–especially 9/11 official story shills. Pure, unadulterated, seething lies.