Discussion: Is Beverly Johnson's Vanity Fair Accusation The Nail In Cosby's Coffin?

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When the Koch brothers come to Bill’s defense we will know the truth.

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That the Cosby story doesn’t seem to be going anywhere isn’t because a tipping point of women or famous women or women with authority hasn’t been achieved. It’s because, among powerful men in the media, the number of actionable, predatory Cosby types far exceeds any known or unknown number of Cosby victims.

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Poor Mrs. Cosby.

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Yeah, I think this just might be it for him. I wanted to believe him, partly because I couldn’t understand why such a brilliant, successful, powerful, influential, attractive (when he was younger) man would need to drug women to have sex with them. I recently learned that there is a disorder where a person want an unconscious partner so they can do whatever they want to them. If the allegations are true, it’s inexcusable, regardless.

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Doesn ot look good for Bill.

Much sadness for all these assorted victims.

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The Cos a masher and rapist? Say it ain’t so Joe , say it ain’t so ! I know we’ve all heard after the serial killer or child molester was caught " I never would have believed it he or she was such a nice pleasant neighbor and captain of the neighborhood watch" So surprised I’m not.

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I’ve been wondering: How much has she known over the years, and how long has she known about it? Is she complicit, or can she really be that out of it?

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You might want to think twice about blaming a victim. She did not choose to have this happen to her. Coming forward was obviously difficult. Saying that a woman that was assaulted (drugged) and was the intended victim of a rapist is somehow complicit is beyond the pale. Please reconsider.

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“You might want to think twice about blaming a victim. She did not choose to have this happen to her. Coming forward was obviously difficult. Saying that a woman that was assaulted (drugged) and was the intended victim of a rapist is somehow complicit is beyond the pale. Please reconsider.”
So, you’re saying Mrs. Cosby was forced to marry Bill? And was also drugged and raped? That’s another story, here!

Or, maybe, you just have very poor reading comprehension.

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So Cosby likes taking advantage of unconscious people who imagined he was going to help them? It seems he missed his true calling as a leader of Tea Party Republicans.

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I think you misread the post you are responding to. It was a comment about Cosby’s wife; not Beverly Johnson.

Many women put up with infidelity for a variety of reasons. Whether she knew about the way her husband treated these women is unknown. It is shocking, if true, that he resorted to drugging and intimidation. But it sure seems that it is true.

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Yes well I think there is a world of difference between having an open marriage and knowing that your spouse is a serial rapist. They have nothing to do with each other, really.

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“They have nothing to do with each other, really.” Much like your response and the comment you responded to.

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Here is what CVilleDem wrote: ‘Many women put up with infidelity for a variety of reasons. Whether she knew about the way her husband treated these women is unknown.’ S/he juxtaposes “putting up with infidelity” with Mrs. Cosby perhaps knowing what her husband was up to. CVille does not say these are the same, of course, but I am merely pointing out that they in fact are worlds apart. Not an attempt at a fundamental refutation, just a response as part of a conversation.

Now what was it you were saying above about poor reading comprehension skills?

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Do you think she knows it? How do you know that? She certainly might know that he was unfaithful, but do you really think she knew he was drugging women? Hard for me to wrap my head around that, but I confess I just don’t know. I kinda think you don’t either

Edit: I just read the above two comments. You really seem to be looking for an argument. I don’t think your points are valid. I will leave it there.

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yeah, it’s called necrophilia (shudder)

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Looking for an argument? I only said that there’s a big difference between having an open marriage and knowingly allowing your husband to be a rapist. Far from suggesting that Mrs. Cosby knew about him drugging and raping, that is saying it’s highly unlikely (though who knows?). Which is to say I am basically agreeing with your point.

I’m not quite sure what the difficulty is here–I didn’t realize I was saying anything controversial or confusing-- but it doesn’t seem worth it to stretch this out any further.

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At least one accuser says she was abandoned by a date who plied her with drinks at Cosby’s house who may have brought her there for the purpose of providing access to her, and that Mrs. Cosby then left her alone with him. She refused more drinks, he began to grab her, she fought him off (I believe this was Lou Ferrigno’s wife, a body builder), raised a ruckus, he finally stopped and Mrs. Cosby never made an appearance. The accuser then ran off the premises herself and found a cab. She told no one but friends until now.

So given his entire history, I think Mrs. Cosby has lived a long life of willful ignorance and enabling - and turned a blind eye to felonies possibly committed while she was under the same roof.

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Looking for an argument? I only said that there’s a big difference between having an open marriage and knowingly allowing your husband to be a rapist.

The difficulty is that there’s also a world of difference between having an open marriage and a marriage where one spouse is having liasons without the consent and/or knowledge of the other. There’s no indication that the Cosbys are in the former.