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Many a top Republican (Haley, Ryan, et al.) has a bigger problem with subject-pronoun agreement.
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I just bet that when it comes right down to it, some of these equivocators will not vote for Trump – they may not admit it now for fear of inflaming an already hateful base. In practical experience, as much as they might dislike HRC, they really do understand she is not a maniac. I know moderate republicans within my extended family who’ve already announced they’re voting for HRC regardless if its Trump, Cruz or Rubio. None of the GOP candidates (except Kasich and he is going nowhere) are acceptable. Not sure if this same cross-over sentiment extends to Bernie – the socialist label is off-putting – but if the choice is between a mensch they disagree with and a fascist, I really do think they’ll vote MENSCH.
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Hiram Stephen Williams · UCLA
I could never have imagined that I would ever witness fifth grade boys running for President of the United States. When of that age, most of us ran into spitball throwers (Rubio), cheaters (Cruz), and bullies (Trump) in the classroom. Mercifully leaving them behind, we then moved on to useful lives.
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Once the voters got a taste of that hate, though, there’s no turning back.
I expect Trumpmentum to carry the day. 'Cause he “says it like it is.”
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Again…no relatives here, no home town…only a childhood spent overseas (albeit with service brats). I have spoken with zero “Republicans in my family”
“Republican friends of mine”
etc.
I only know that all that I have studied with respect to mob/Collective Behaviour through history points to Trump getting about 45% of the (mostly white male) population/significant others who have a problem with what Pierre van den Berghe called Competitive Race Relations.
I will be asking people for the remainder of this election cycle about THEIR reading of the American mind**. If Trump gets the Nomination for the GOP, it will be a very ugly time in American history.
** That is why the Spanish language says “Pueblo Latino” , for example…NOT meaning a town BUT an essence…a SOUL.
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"We’ve said that we would support the nominee if they get the nomination,” but added about Trump: “we don’t know if he could win a general and that’s a big concern.”
Aside from Haley’s obnoxious use of the papal “we,” it’s appalling that her “big concern” is that he might not win the election for the GOP. Were she a patriot, her “big concern” would be that he might win the election. But she isn’t a patriot; she’s a Republican.
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Bingo!
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Great Post.
If the #NeverTrump crowd are dissenters, and Rubio tweeted that hash-tag, doesn’t that put him into that “Dissenters” camp according to the terms this article lays out?
McCain:"“I’m a loyal Republican," he said in a January interview with CBS News. “I disagree with him [Trump] on a number of the statements and positions that he’s taken, obviously. But if that’s the verdict of the Republican Party and the majority of Americans, then I will do everything I can to help that president whether it be Trump or whoever because we are in a state of crisis the likes of which we have not seen."
So why isn’t he doing everything he can for the current President?
Paul Ryan:" They must reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry,"
Well there goes your entire base, Paul.
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Republicans hate Democrats and they particularly detest Hillary Clinton. I just don’t see them voting for her or sitting this one out. They know that if she or Bernie get in the Oval Office, they will have lost the Supreme Court for the next 20-30 years.
When push comes to shove, no matter how much they may say otherwise, they’ll vote for Trump. They may be holding their collective noses when they do so, but they’ll most certainly vote for Trump. They can’t help themselves - marching in lockstep is in their DNA.
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Tom Toles nails it.
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As you know, my family is (mostly) jewish and those that aren’t liberal-ish democrats, are what GOP true believers might dub RINOs. They voted for Bush and Romney. Some, but not all were frightened off of voting for McCain because of Palin. That said, there are a couple of really hard core right wingers who regularly sent out those ghastly conspiracy emails about Obama etc. and make their relatives feel embarrassed to even know them. I think they started out in the GOP more economically oriented, but they’ve picked up neoconservative attitudes and along with it, some of the crazier sh-t. However, even as wrong-headed as they are, I can’t quite see them voting for someone aligned with the KKK - unless of course, David Duke came out in support of Israel! Then that would be kosher.
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I’ve tried to keep my finger feeling the pulse of my conservative country cousins. Months ago they were all for Carson however I’m unable to get any sense of who they’d vote for now. I think that’s a good sign.
All i get from them is that they are thoroughly disgusted with the candidates and especially tRUMP. But also Cruz and the Rube. I know they despise Hillary so where does this leave people like them?
I think it leaves them sitting on their hands come election day. These people are hard core right wingers and John Birchers.
I’m looking forward to seeing how Oklahoma and Texas votes later on today!
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TPM:
But after Trump announced his now-infamous policy plan to ban Muslims from entering the country, Ryan condemned the proposal, saying it’s "not who we are as a party.”
It is now.
It’s not gonna go away just because you don’t wanna look in that mirror, Paul.
In a press conference on Tuesday, Ryan strongly condemned Trump’s response to an endorsement by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, while saying he would still back the party’s nominee…
… Even if he’s a stone cold racist proponent of the KKK - which to be fair, is not that surprising coming from a Republican. Their so-called opposition to racism stops as soon as anyone suggests they do something about it.
Lincoln is probably spinning in his grave so fast that his coffin is gonna take off and enter orbit, if it hasn’t already.
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- Erick Erickson is a NeverTrump-er? - Really?!! I’ll bet that’s not the prevailing sentiment on Red State (not that any amount of money could make me go look). We’ll see.
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GOP-ers have got a winner with Trump. No more being embarrassed about Racism. Trump owns it. (And can lie his way IN and OUT of it in a way that is so effortless and off-hand it’s funny in itself).
He’s the Rex Ryan of politics.
Rex, used to be so blustery and obnoxious, be took the spotlight off of his team and assumed it himself, earning the gratitude (and effort) of that team. Trump’s voters feel a gratitude and connection to Trump far more than any other candidate. Plus he’s “rich”