I truly think they will come out smelling like a rose no matter what they do. Look at this past election. Trump became the Champion of the American Worker. Hillary was a criminal.
It looks like they can do whatever they want an will suffer no ill effects.
The only fun thing about all this is those who will suffer the most and die and the ones who voted for these evil shits.
So itās all politics and theater and bullshit.
Are there any Republican policy wonks anymore? I donāt mean frauds like Paul Ryan. I mean serious people. Give me a name. I donāt think they exist.
But people will die. People will suffer.
But they donāt care. They know Faux News will give them cover and they wonāt pay a political price for this. They will muddy the waters and blame Obama and the Democrats. Half the country will go along with this thinking.
Most members of Congress might be home for the holidays, but the difficult GOP staff work of hammering out how to repeal Obamacare is underway on Capitol Hill.
I canāt decide which of these options is the most correct way of parsing āthe difficult GOP staff workā:
Discuss.
If they actually do this - repeal Obamacare without a back up plan, they are going to actually hurt people who will not forget it. They can say what they like, the people with Obamacare know what they have and if they lose it, there will be hell to pay.
I somehow doubt the Republican Party will be fucked. They will shrug it off and their Fox New enablers will ensure the public that its all good.
Why did the ACA always poll so badly anyway.? I could never figure it out. If people couldnāt see the good of the ACA, Iām not sure they will see the bad of losing it.
The GOP needs to repeal the law in its entirety. Trump voters will revolt if their healthcare in not taken away from them. They need to know that they can die of curable illnesses in the privacy and freedom of their own home free from the interference of affordable health care.
Totally agree with this.
Your concern is noted. Thatās not my experience - Obamacare is working, even in states that bucked it. Lots and lots and lots and lots of Americans have health care for the first time and they will not forget it if it is taken from them and they get nothing in return.
Lauren, there was an article in Stat today about a Republican plan to create a āpiggy bankā out of which to fund a replacement plan: https://www.statnews.com/2016/12/16/obamacare-replacement-pharma/
Sounds like this and the end run around the parliamentarian plan are efforts by some of the smarter or more industry-connected Repubs to mitigate the pain, but in the end, theyāll go for the quick win. Short term thinking is kind of a thing with these assholes. Still, interesting that theyāre thinking about how to get around the āgiving the rich a huge tax break means no replaceā problem.
Many people on Obamacare voted for Trump or didnāt vote at all or voted third party.
Hope they donāt die now, but Darwin could prevail, and we could be better in the long run without these losers.
in earlier eras, perhaps. Now there are some partisan anarchists who I think really relish smashing things up - and have such a disregard for voters that they donāt believe - as long as their rhetoric is as harsh as the current Fox lines - there will be any ballot box repercussions. Those bomb throwers arenāt big enough to lead a drive to just end it with one foul swoop - but they do have enough sway to push all those concerns about a ālong transitionā out the window - ensuing chaos be damned.
Well, Iām glad to hear you say that, but it certainly never seemed to be reflected in the polling or in the media coverage. Maybe itās that the people who need it just arenāt politically significant enough.
TPMās day after day speculation and gossip updares about Obamacare (and Medicare) are not only tedious but misleading. They flow from Josh Marshallās panic about the possible changes, along with an inflated view of his websiteās journalistic and political importance. Who knows what the Republicans and Trump will try to do, or accomplish.
I agree with your scorn for politicians wanting āinvitations to the right parties.ā But losing campaign contributions is a serious problem, especially so post-Citizens United. Without money, you canāt get your message out to the masses, you canāt pay for campaign staff and office space and polling, you canāt pay for transportation from campaign stop to campaign stop.
You need to raise millions of dollars to mount a viable campaign even in a U.S. House race. For Senate and Gubernatorial races, try tens of millions (and possibly hundreds of millions in a very large and expensive state like Florida). The Tom Daschle-John Thune Senate race in South Dakota in 2004 cost over $30 million.
Itās shameful, but itās the reality of our system.
They are proud that people will die.
Know any Republicans? I feel sorry for you.
So we should all just go quiet and wait.
I think āGOP staff workā is referring to what the GOP does with a large wooden pole right after they ask the American people to bend over.
Most of the Obamacare Trump voters have already passed on their DNA. But many of their kids will move to the big cities of blue America and enjoy gay abortions and stuff with us decadent coastal elites, because Darwinism really doesnāt apply to politics, and the sins of the Trumpies shall not be passed on to their innocent spawn ā only the pain and the awkward holiday dinner table conversations.