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There were even welt marks on the boy’s testicles. AP admitted in a text message “can’t believe I got him in the nuts”
Welts = Child Abuse
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two things come to mind…violence begets violence and aggression is the tool of the weak…
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So, he tried teaching a life lesson by whipping the crap out of him and causing lacerations on multiple parts of his body, including his private area. Yeah, you’re not an abuse. /sarcasm
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I’m thinking Adrian Peterson is not the person to determine whether or not it’s child abuse
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Well you are a child abuser, you openly, proudly, admitted to whipping your son with a tree branch. The facts are pretty clear. The only issue the legal system is now resolving is your punishment.
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At a bare minimum, he’s an asshole. The courts can determine the rest.
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“I am not a racist.” David Duke
“I’m not a crook.” Richard Nixon
“I’m not in love.” 10cc
“I’m not gay.” former Senator Larry Craig
“I’m not a Nazi” Heinz-Christian Strache
“I’m not a hater. I’m not homophobic.” Mike Huckabee
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I’m very torn on this one. My grandparents used to make us go out and pick a switch they would use to spank us when we misbehaved. If you brought back a dead twig, they’d go get the freshest, greenest one they could find. It hurt and sometimes left a few welts sometimes that would disappear in an hour or so, but I wouldn’t even remotely call it abuse. Spanking was all they knew, it was all their parents knew to teach a child. I get it.
On the other hand, this kid is four and it sounds like it went well beyond the spankings I received as a child. Neither my parents nor my grandparents ever spanked us hard enough to draw blood or bruise the skin. It sounds to me like he went way too far, used entirely too much force, and went well beyond punishment into abuse.
Despite the fact that my parents and grandparents spanked, it’s definitely not something I would do. I get their reasoning and I understand why they believed it was the best way to teach a child. I also understand that things have got to change. There is no shortage of whoopings in the black community. We need to take a long, hard look at ourselves and ask if it’s really working. The answer is obvious.
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ChaRleS BArkLEY saiD it RIGHt. WE BEaT OUr KIDs in THe sOUth with A swiTCH On thEIR butts UNTIL their RECTUMS blEED, AROUnd THE genITals and STuff LEaVES in THEIR mouths. DOn’t JUDge, IT’s part OF our CULTural HEritagE. Like FLYing the Stars AND bars and HATIng blacks!!!11!1!!one!1!!1!!!
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Or the testicles, as has been reported in this case.
Just because our parents and grandparents didn’t call it abuse doesn’t mean it wasn’t abuse. Yeah, I got beaten as well.
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I don’t call it abuse because it wasn’t. Spanking isn’t abuse. Whether one agrees with it or not, it’s not abuse as defined by the law. In AP’s case, it certainly sounds as though he abused his son.
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At one time, it was common, in rural areas, for people to get married in their early teens. The fact that it was acceptable years ago no longer applies. Same with “whoppings” that draw blood and leave bruises and welts.
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If spanking hard enough to leave welts is not abuse, at what level of beating would you call abuse?
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It really doesn’t require much force at all to leave a welt, at least not on me.
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Did grandparents create open wounds? If not end of discussion because Adrian Peterson did.
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Not to get too personal, but I’ve some smallish experience with BDSM. You’re right, on some people it doesn’t take much force to leave a welt. It is also true that it can take a great deal of force to leave more than a welt, depending on the implement being used and the person involved. Just “leaving a welt” is a very, very poor way to measure force, pain, and abuse. IMO, it’s all abuse if it’s not consensual. There are far better ways to discipline a child, and “spankings” are more often a sign of the parent loosing control, over the child receive corrective discipline.
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Any normal method of discipline can be abuse if applied excessively. A time-out in the corner? What if it was for 20 hours?
With corporal punishment, if there is blood, it’s abuse.
If one is a violent person in a violent occupation, well, of course, abuse is not in one’s vocabulary.
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