Discussion for article #246204
Gosh, all Lâil Rafael has to do is produce his Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA, or Form FS-240). Gosh, I wonder why he doesnât produce it? Could it be because Mommy Cruz was registered to vote in Canadian elections?
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Thatâs what I donât understand. All Alberta Rafael has to do is produce that one piece of paper. Wonder where it is?
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Hmmmm, I wonder why Orly Taitz isnât on the case? Hmmmm, why is she soooooooooooo silent?
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Her nail buffing career has really taken off and she doesnât have the time.
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Sorry, I have to click away from this story. The Schadenfreude is simply too rich.
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Well let him take it to the Supreme Court, surely they can solve this issue quickly enough.
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Gawd, I would LOVE to have Ted forced out because he isnât ânatural bornâ. The irony would be just too sweet for words.
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And when he produces some form, letâs all call it fake, forged and obviously part of some huge plot to put a foreigner in the Presidency.
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It would be a fitting end to all that birther nonsense the Republicans stirred up, wouldnât it?
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Joyce told USA Today that he is a Ben Carson supporter, and that he is worried that if Cruz secures the Republican nomination, his candidacy will then be derailed by lawsuits filed by Democrats. (Lawrence Joyce)
So you, Mr. Joyce, will take down Cruz for the Democrats? Considering how little support your man, Dr. Carson, is garnering lately, wouldnât it behoove you to drop your support for Carson now and hop on someone elseâs bandwagon? Dude, you very well may be doing Cruz a favor by forcing the courts to clarify the meanings of the various types of âcitizen.â
That said, I am glad someone * has started the process. Besides Cruz deserving to be derailedâhowever that happensâit would be good for us all to have that clearer definitions of ânatural born citizen,â ânaturalized citizenâ and just plain âcitizen.â
edited to add: *since there appears to be very few persons or entities who âhave standing.â
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This, of course, raises an even juicier possibility. If he or his parents didnât take the proper steps to secure his U.S. citizenship, he may not even be eligible to serve in the Senate.
God, I do so love it.
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Whatâs really adding to the mystery is the timing of whatever his mother did or didnât do at the time of his birth. Canadaâs laws were different then.
Another interesting thought. If he hasnât been a citizen, he has violated election laws by voting.
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And donât we all look foolish? Weâve been saying that voting by âillegal aliensâ is an imaginary problem. Yet hereâs an example, right under our noses!
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So Cruzâ lawyers are arguing that Obama is a ânatural bornâ citizen because of his mother, even if he had been born abroad? What do the Birthers think of this apostasy?
Of course, no one argued that Obamaâs mother ever renounced US citizenship. At the time Cruz was born Canada didnât allow dual citizenship, so if Cruzâ mother really did become a Canadian citizen (required to register to vote), she officially renounced her US citizenship and he isnât a US citizen at all!
Too rich for words. No one would know or care if he hadnât brought this up as an attack on Obama.
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I can see him now in the confirmation hearings to replace ScaliaâŚ
âyeah, yeahâŚ2nd AmendmentâŚAbortionâŚwhatever. But what are you opinions on the definition of ânatural born citizenâ? Thatâs the really important litmus test here.â
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This Cruz thing could turn into something like a walk through the doggie park without watching where you are stepping.
I am glad itâs being teed up so it can be decided. It seems stupid not to have a judicially prescribed consensus meaning. But on behalf of U.S. citizens living in foreign countries, people may not actually know they have to do anything, although, if you are coming back into the U.S. from a foreign country you clearly would need to go through a process even to bring an infant into the country, and this is for really good reasons (e.g., kidnapping). But no one needed a passport to travel between Canada and the U.S. until around 2007 or 2008. We visited Canada in 2007 and got passports because it was a new requirement (although it might have been delayed a few more months â I canât remember). Our foreign au pair definitely needed a passport and visa. So Mrs. Cruz, bringing her son back to the U.S. in the 1970s might really not have understood she needed to do anything.
âhis fundraising would dry upâ
Proof that this guy hasnât been paying attention to the outrage-funding of the last thirty years.