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ItĀ“s a shame that their poster boy for the notion of picked-on police ĀØ had been stealing and laundering ā¦ money over seven years from the Fox Lake Explorers Unit, which was supposed to teach youngsters about law enforcement.ĀØ
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/1071605/officials-confirm-fox-lake-cop-killed
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Yeah, it appears he was a real stalwart individual . This is what really pisses me off that policeman are held out to be these great people beyond reproach and how dare black folks protest being murdered on a daily basis by police and risk being labeled as terrorists for doing so. What a fucked up country this is.
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This is me rolling my eyes, while saying with a smirk on my faceā¦fuck law enforcement. They (law enforcement) want communities of color to extend to them the same benefit of the doubt that they fail to extend to communities of color themselves.
Fuck law enforcement, they have one job and one job only: protect white America from the darkiesā¦fuck law enforcement. Modern day overseers
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Chammy, I apologize, but I edited my post after you had replied.
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āOut here today to show that police lives matter, every life matters,ā Fox Lake resident Gina Maria told NBC. āI think itās time we rally around our law enforcement and stop the madness."
My question to Gina Maria: What the fuck is so āmadā about anyone protesting police brutality? You sound pissed because itās black people who are protesting the police brutality. Iām white and you know what? Black Lives DO Matter! Iām glad attention is being drawn to the issue. As a nation, we are stronger and better if we are humane and fair to everyone no matter skin color or other possible identifiers. I do not hate policepersons. I want them to be good, honest and fair at doing their very important jobs. A lot of trust goes with that badge. Considering our history and many most-recent events, I can understand why many people have reservations about that trust. Even I am a bit more weary than I used to be ā and that is rather frightening because it very well might inhibit me from coming forward with much-needed information or reporting a crime. Think about that ā a lot of bad things happen when there is mistrust between a community and the law enforcement tasked with policing and protecting. I understand the apprehension and outright disgust many black Americans feel toward law enforcement in this nation. Things must change. Things really must change.
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Because racists will latch onto anything in an attempt to validate their hate. They canāt just hate and be satisfied with that fact. They need reasons.
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āThat movement, while having the opportunity to propound much needed, responsible themes on police reform, has too often drifted into the rhetoric of ignorance and hate.ā As my mama would say, āDITTO CABBAGEHEAD!ā
āDespite the current lack of hard data and empirical evidence in both the murder of deputy Goforth and the broader spike in violent crimes across the country, concluding that both stem from the anti-cop themes from such protesters, liberal politicians and the mainstream media is hardly counterintuitive,ā he wrote.
Vile sensationalism.
I live in the Houston area, where the killing of Deputy Goforth has received exhaustive coverage. Goforth was filling up his patrol car at a gas station when his assailant simply walked up and shot him, multiple times. It was a horrible thing, and to all appearances, a deliberate and completely unprovoked murder.
That said, thereās been no evidence ā zero, none, zip ā that ties it the BLM movement. Immediately after the killing, the Harris County Sheriff, noticeably upset, held a press conference in which he said āall lives matter,ā which immediately set the narrative. The sheriff did not, in fact, say anything about the suspectās motive, but that comments and the (still) unexplained nature of the killing, have opened the door to scurrilous comments like those above. The local District Attorney actually went on the record later saying that they had established no motive, and the suspect had not given any reason for his actions. That was weeks ago, and as far as I can tell, that hasnāt changed, although we have learned that the suspect had some history of mental illness.
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Excellent post. You hit on something that law enforcement seems completely oblivious to, and thatās the need for their communities to trust them so that they can more effectively do their jobs. I watch First 48 on A&E. The vast majority of murders are solved not through CSI evidence that leads them to a culprit, but mostly because of community cooperation.
Itās usually pretty obvious why certain detectives are more successful than others. You see it in their interactions with suspects and witnesses. They extend a level of respect, understanding, and compassion that makes people feel comfortable talking to them. They earn the respect and trust of their communities not by being abusive assholes who canāt wait to put a hole in someone, but by being decent people. Thatās typically how it works in most situations in life, and yet too many cops think that by simply putting on a badge and being a massive dick they somehow deserve respect. Itās quite the opposite.
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Progress, I guess; time was that the āreasonā was considered self-evident, no justification needed. But too many (white) people who donāt pay attention will think such crap sounds reasonable, when itās just venomously divisive racist bullsht. Between these fkers, the gun nuts, and the Carsonite neo-Birchers, sometimes I get the sick feeling that the number of hateful lunatics jonesing for an actual civil war is approaching critical mass.
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Actually, āconcludingā anything at all ādespite the current lack of hard data and empirical evidenceā isin fact "counterintuitive. Particularly for somebody in charge of the safety and well-being of an entire community. To take that conclusion further and expounding on it in the public square using your office as megaphone is downright irresponsible and potentially dangerous.
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extraordinarily rare misconduct by a very few.
Whatās he been smoking? Itās not rare at all, and not committed by a very few. Itās common, and if not the norm, certainly not the practice of outliers.
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Police have been quick to smear Black Lives Matter. They arenāt attacking the reforms that BLM is offering up, they are lying about BLMās message. BTW, most of the reforms BLM is backing have been around for a while. The idea of independent police review boards arenāt new, but departments have been resisting the idea for years.
What the Police donāt like is the additional scrutiny that BLM has brought to the issue. After Ramos and Liu were killed in New York, the NYPD asked people to be respectful and not protest. The head of the Police Union in Chicago did the same, and added that CPD Officersā patience was wearing thin. WTF? The head of the police union said the police were getting tired of the citizens theyāre supposed to protect and serve protesting getting beaten and killed for no reason.
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Will the Police Union apologize for the vitriol directed by its Director at the BLM Movement? Who am I kidding! Not happening.
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The search instigated by this thief cost his local police and sheriff departments something like $300K due to overtime and reassignments. Will all of those police unions and blue defenders now be willing to step forward to help reimburse the citizens of this community for their having believed their fellow blue brotherās dying lies? They used his death and funeral as an advertising tool. I say let them pay for the privilege.
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These āgood citizensā want us to support cops and āstop the madnessā. By āstop the madnessā, they mean, stop criticizing cops for killing unarmed black males, forcing themselves sexually on women during traffic stops, and knocking down doors in the middle of the night, terrorizing home owners while looking for marijuana.
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You want the RNC. Thatās down the hall, just past the bathrooms.
I blame his suicide on BLM. He figured heād soon no longer be able to shoot black folks for no reason and get away with and he just couldnāt bear to live with that.
I wonāt judge him for the stealing or the suicide ā¦ itās only money and it was his life. I DO blame him for involving others. My guess is that someone could have easily been killed in the manhunt after he said he saw two white and one black suspicious males just before he killed himself. Angry people with guns looking for 3 people is a recipe for disaster.
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