Let the investigation pan out.
The situation with Ellison in MN with his ex is a perfect of example of how not to jump to conclusions.
Avenatti has enemies out there. Wouldnât put anything past those enemies.
Jake âThe Flyâ Burkman is riding shotgun for WohlâŚ
How are they so bad at this? Because even if they do get caught, nothing will happen. So how bad are they?
Of course this would reflect a set-up, but whoâs gonna prosecute? The damage is done.
OT- but do you share my opinion that, after his movies with Lina Wertmuller, Giancarlo Giannini has never found roles that do him justice?
Sorry to say Iâm not really familiar with his work that much. Or hers, to be honestâI think I saw âSwept Awayâ a long time ago and said yeah yeah I get it roles reversed fine. Not judging the film itself; sometimes something everyone else loves just doesnât work for me, for whatever reason. Iâm sure youâre correct about him but it certainly seems like heâs kept himself busy.
Swept Away is the least watchable of the early Lina Wertmuller films nowadays. I rented it during one of the NYC Hurricanes and it was awful to watch. Almost as bad as the Madonna American remake of it. Some movies, even very popular and critically acclaimed ones like An Unmarried Woman, or A Man and a Woman, simply do not age well. Swept Away is one of them. I thought Love & Anarchy, The Seduction of Mimi and Seven Beauties were great. Anyway, I dont consider his roles with Keanu Reeves and Denzel Washington or in the Hannibal Lecter sequel to The Silence of the Lambs to be good roles.
Iâll see Seven Beauties then. I know what you mean about the most talked-about work not necessarily being the best. Like Milesâs âLive at the Blackhawkââyouâll never hear it described as seminal, or a landmark, or any of that critic talk, but I think itâs his best and if someone asks why do you guys get all excited about jazz, thatâs the album Iâd give them to listen to, not âKind of Blue.â
Thank you for your research, summation, and analysis
OK. I will listen to Miles Davisâ Live at the Blackhawk. After I widowed in the early mid 90âs I couldnt listen to any of the music I had been into from high school and college and the Jackson Heights branch of the Queens Library had a good Jazz CD collection so I got into jazz at the late age of 38. I did buy Kind of Blue.
I would not recommend you start with Seven Beauties. It is dark and says very unpleasant things about humans and the compromises Italy made joining the Axis and had to make after the defeat of the Axis. Try Love & Anarchy (with his co-star from Swept Away) or The Seduction of Mimi, which has a lot of humor to the social commentary. If you like either or both, then go for Seven Beauties.
I have gone back and read some of the Latin American Boom novels I read in HS, college and in my early 30âs. Some of my favorite authors from that movement have not aged well. Or I do not find their novels and stories as awesome as I once did. They are also increasingly hard to find in print, some of the authors (Alejo Carpentier and Guillermo Cabrera Infante for example).
Iâll follow your plan but if it gives you confidence one of my favorite films is âThe Conformist.â Mostly I drool over the cinematography but still, itâs pretty dark.
Itâs certainly interesting what ages well, when the thing of course hasnât changed over time but we have.
I believe itâs a felony to file false report of a misdemeanor or felony in CA.
How was Gary Hart âtotally set upâ? I like Gary Hart, but he was having an affair, lying about it, and self-righteously dared the media to follow him around if they didnât believe him. And then they followed him around and caught him with Donna Rice. He was a decent politician who didnât understand the changing media landscape, but his downfall was entirely of his own making.
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How was Gary Hart âtotally set upâ?
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Okay, I read that and the one detail that stumps me is: if Donna Rice was not an intimate friend of Hartâs, why did he permit her to sit on his lap for the photo â I donât care if it was just â5 secondsââ and WHY DID SHE VISIT HIS HOUSE and then supposedly sneak out the back door (instead of actually spending the night as accused)?
Yes, Atwater, if we believe the deathbed confession business, could have âset it upâ such that he arranged for the girls to be there, enlisted their assistance in documenting what happened, etc., but Hart apparently took the bait.
In my mind, the man quit too fast to have been entirely innocent.
If you have questions, thatâs fine. I carry no brief for this, but itâs a recounting by one of the worldâs best living journalists about essentially two deathbed confessions revealing that a guy who did this stuff for a living set up and disgraced a strong contender for the Democratic nomination. Donna Rice doesnât want to confirm her role in it because sheâs got a life to lead. No mystery there. Weâre very much inclined these days to mistrust a powerful man in an infidelity or other sexual misbehavior situation, but not all men do that stuff. So you can make up your own mind. I think itâs pretty powerful evidence for a setup.
A setup, yes, as I said, I buy that. But it was a setup designed to capture a guy who could have handled himself and the circumstances outlined very differentlyâŚand didnât.
Again, pretty sure taking her to his house was not an action forced upon him by Lee Atwater.
It was a âhoney potâ conspiracy, but he stuck his hand in it. I keep hearing the phrase âyou canât run a con against an honest man.â
Again, I do not own stock in this story, but thereâs a whole continuum of possibilities between Hart being a lecherous hound and Hart doing a Pence and saying his wife wonât allow him to be in the same room with a woman not his wife if the woman who is his wife isnât there too. I doubt thereâs a person on earth who hasnât innocently done something that wouldnât look innocent if they were being set up that way. There must be ten thousand drawing-room comedies based on a similar idea. And with this I officially declare myself a noncombatant on this idea.
Okay, me too.