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Well, winning costs a lot. A LOT. A TREMENDOUS amount. A HUUUUGGGEE amount. So, how do you pay to win, Tea Partiers? Taxes! Yes, taxes, little people, right here in River City. That must have been one damn stoopid crowd. Glad I missed it.
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Won’t be long before the TeaBaggers become enamored of the stupid President…/s
Agreed, and I’d say it more simply: Trump appeals because he tells ignorant, stupid, frightened, hate-filled people that their poverty, fear, anger, resentment are not their own fault or the fault of the foul animals they vote into Congress, but rather the fault of Them Brown Heathen Over There and That N**** in the White House.
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People are always drawn to see a huuuge wiener!
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It sounds like the student election in the movie Napoleon.
“I would make a great class president because I promise to put two new pop machines in the cafeteria, and I’m also gonna get a glitter Bonne Bell dispenser for all the girls’ bathrooms. Oh, and we’re gonna get new cheerleading uniforms. Anyway, I think I’d be a great class president. So, who wants to eat chiminichangas next year? Not me. See, with me it will be summer all year long. Vote for Summer.”
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So, conservatools hate losing… what else is new.
Ironically, you find yourself losing a lot when winning is all you care about - not principle, not integrity, not values and consistency… just winning. Just so you can say you’re the biggest and baddest. This must be why every other thing conservatards do these days backfires: wanting to win at all costs, with no brains or integrity, is its own undoing.
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Whether anti-Trumperers like it or not, he is on to something that is sticking; all the other dolts in that Republican pack are dead in the political waters and rapidly sinking out of sight.
The way it is shaping up now: Hil vs. The Donald. Should be fun.
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So what’s the appeal??
I still don’t see it.
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Trump’s vision of America on a losing streak felt true to the Tea Party crowd.
That is because it is THEY who are losing! The Tea Party is a tiny fraction of the American people, and these guys are in the throes of the kind of horror that grips a political party on its deathbed.
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Here’s why Trump has appeal.
Thanks to our deteriorating system of education, non-stop 24-hour a day propaganda from right-wing media spreading lies and disinformation, and a supine “mainstream media” incapable or unwilling to challenge lies and misstatements, America is dominated by wanton ignorance. Just look at the incredibly ignorant things the Republican candidates are saying about the Supreme Court and the rule of law. And they are getting away with it.
No surprises here, nothing to see, move along.
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Naw, not taxes. Get rid of “give away programs” that take money out of my pocket and give if to the lazy moochers!
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Hogwash!! I don’t know why the media is having such a hard time understanding Trump’s appeal. It is simple: Mr and Mrs Brown. It’s all about the “others”. As long as Trump keeps up his schtick about illegal immigrants (otherwise known as raping, murdering, thieving Mexicans), he will win the GOP nomination.
Everything else is secondary. This is why they will forgive Trump ANYTHING, as long as he keeps on berating the Latinos.
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Trump’s speeches are echoes of Nurenberg. We need to get beyond the taboo against mentioning fascism in polite company. The fact is Trump’s rallying cries make no logical sense. They make EMOTIONAL sense to a large mass of people, people who are thus LIKELY VOTERS. Linguists tell us that Hitler’s rhetoric was disjointed, unorganized. His language was not artful. But his simplistic slogans resonated. His voice soared confidently. He allowed for no doubt about his and Germany’s role in the world, and it was “uber alles.” This is what Trumpism is. His name alone expresses his appeal. His appeal will not just go away, no matter who he insults and how ignorant he may sound to intellectuals. Our media with it’s “on the one hand, then on the other” is not going to be able to counteract his influence or blunt his appeal–and it doesn’t see countering Trumpism as its job anyway. He’s entertaining. He’s popular. He’s advancing. He’s News.
We are now experiencing the rise of our Golden Dawn, our National Front. Trumpism is the politics and language of fascism. Its current success has Republicans re-evaluating their priorities, their language, everything. Now that it’s here, it’s open, and it’s popular, it’s not going away, maybe ever. Our popular culture will not allow us to call it fascism, its real name. So there needs to be discussion NOW to arrive at a commonly agreed language to explain its appeal, terms and phrases that can be promoted into common usage that allows liberal push-back without accusations of invoking Nazism. Who will help lead the creation of a new language that allows us to point out what Trumpism is? Krugman? Conason? Taibbi? Marshall?
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Trump’s supporters are obviously old cranks who think the world is going to hell in a handbasket because these kids today listen to heavy-metal music and don’t got no respect for their elders. They drive too fast and wear their hair too long. They’re probably all communists, too. And China’s kickin our ass with their cheap plastic products and blah blah blah.
In America, there’s always that kind of undercurrent. “Back in my day…” “These kids today…” “Used to be…” “When I was young…” “America used to be great, now look at it? Over-run with hippies and homos and commies.”
That’s the sentiment Trump seems to share, and it really resonates with these guys. The kind that used to hang out at the barbershop, the old duffers who sit in the park or on the bench in front of the general store, complaining about what the country is comin’ to.
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Here is my trajectory on Trump…
- He’s an idiot
- He’s an idiot, but kind of fun to watch
- He’s an idiot, kind of fun to watch, but does occasionally stumble into a good point
- He’s an idiot, but is the guy I love to hate
- He really is an idiot
He really doesn’t wear well in the long run, and I’ve heard reporters saying the same thing. Once you’ve seen his act enough you can’t get over that it is just an act.
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Gulliver, you are quite correct in this assessment. This is why Trump is so dangerous. He is like a pied piper gathering up and leading lemmings to the precipice of an American descent into a fascist abyss. I don’t think we will ever be able to reverse the devotion that the lemmings of the Tea Party, the white supremacists, neo-nazis, and others have for Trump. What must happen is for the rational electorate to be really motivated to get off their duffs and work to defeat this threat to the republic. In my view the likes of Trump, Cruz, Palin, etc. are far more dangerous to us than Iran, Syria, or Isis.
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Yes. Its an act.
A grift.
An obvious con by an obvious bullshitter.
So how come our media play along? It couldn’t be the tide of clicks and dollars lifting their lil boats, could it?
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FEAR makes people stupid, and you can’t cure Stupid.
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Truthiness!