Discussion: How Trump Is More Like The Rest Of The GOP Than They'd Like To Admit

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Spot on!! This piece is brilliant and in my opinion 100% accurate.

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Damn good synopsis. Trump just isn’t as smooth as his rivals.

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trump isn’t fringe at all to the gop/bags. This is what their party has become.

You have to give credit to trump for not attempting to sugar coat it.

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Exactly, just because Rinse doesn’t like looking in the GOP mirror, and seeing Trump and the Tea party staring back at him doesn’t change the fact this is the monster they created.

He’s not going to like it any better as they cycle through the crazy, as they did in 2012.

He’s going to hate the 3rd party run as well.

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All you have to do is listen to Iheartradio, watch Fox News or follow social media to know a lot of people are mad as hell Those are the people Trump is tapping into. The media and the political elites ignore those people at their peril. Until now those people have been entertained by Iheartradio, Fox News and the rest of the conservative noise machine, but those channels have demonstrated time and time again that they are mostly entertainment and unable or unwilling to do anything. The Donald says he will do something and his bellowing talk sounds authentic.

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Yeah, not to mention he seems to support every conspiracy theory out there. Vaccines cause autism and Ebola patients should be locked away during that whole thing. I think it is dangerous to view the guy as entertainment. Many conservatives would point to John Stewart as something akin but he has never been out to run the country. He has always been a comedian and we do hear his politics sometimes directly and more often just leaks in.

Trump really thinks he can do this. And much of the base thinks that he is refreshing because he speaks his mind and tells it like it is. Since he is speaking to their level of anger.

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You still don’t get it.

Trump isn’t the GOP id. Trump doesn’t believe any of the bullshit (birtherism, Mexican rape machines) that he’s peddling. He using that shit to troll.

No. Trump knows the GOP id, and he’s exploiting the living shit out of it, dragging it into the light of day, trolling the holy fuck out of the GOP and shitbag media. The only question is why. Perhaps he has some secret vendetta against the GOP and/or wants to ensure that Hillary wins. Or maybe he’s doing it just because he can, because a void has been created for a performance artist to fill. Regardless, it’s providing an essential service, and if the fucking idiots at the DNC had any sense at all they’d take the gift Trump is giving them and hang it around the GOP like an anchor and shove the fucks into the ocean.

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Harry Reid did.

He said Trumps position on immigration is the same as the GOP.

But neither Bernie nor Hillary should engage in he commentary - it’s not presidential.

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I think that’s closer to the truth. He’s probably just bored.

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Perhaps he’s like Colbert of the candidates,… those that don’t get it love him, those that do get it, do too, but for a different reason.

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he’s their id

I think he’s more like their superego, but what do I know about psychology…

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I tend to agree with you. Either way, for whatever reason, Trump is exposing the festering underbelly of the cesspool that has become the modern Republican party. They built it with 30+ years of “southern strategy” and raw hate politics. The pendulum is heading left and many Republican heads are in it’s path. Stand back and enjoy.

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Trump isn’t the GOP id. That was unleashed by GOP scream radio and the corporate sponsors of organizations such as the Tea Party and the NRA. It’s been evolving since the 1980s and yells at Americans through dozens of mouthpieces.

The GOP didn’t help create Trump, either. Trump is his own narcissistic brand. He’s flirted with running since at least 1988, and has at various times aligned with both parties. He happens to be the GOP’s problem, but that’s not the same thing.

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Yes I think that would be more accurate. The real point is that the explicit beliefs and attitudes of the Republicans are equivalent to the id of the NORMAL, non-sociopathic individual-the darkest, most uninhibited fears and prejudices that swirl around in the base parts of our consciousness. But from the point of view of most Republicans, Trump is giving voice to what they regard as their moral code, their highest vision. So: superego of Republicans=id of normal, reasonably well-adjusted person.

But the actual ID of the Republicans? That is a concept too vile to even consider.

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Preaching to the choir. Most here agree that he’s speaking for a major chunk of people who identify as Republican. He’s just doing it better than the other eighty six candidates because he’s ignoring the directive to encode all transmissions and broadcasting in the clear.

And it’s a funny thing about that code book. Liberals cracked it decades ago, but conservatives seem to have enormous difficulty decrypting the messages and consider use of the code evidence of cowardice that borders on treason. Meanwhile, the MSM has always had a copy of the codebook but is subject to rules requiring it to never, ever, ever publish or acknowledge the existence of the decrypted messages.

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Trump cannot be de-funded.

In addition, Trump is far more entertaining than just about every other Rethug competing for the Presidency…and he knows that.

These two things (especially the former) assure that he will be seen and heard for months to come.

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Nail it home–Always, always “Republican-candidate-Trump”, all one word.

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Let’s not forget that even though McCain condemned the swift boat ads, he continued to campaign with Bush who never condemned the ads the whole campaign. Why did McCain continue to support Bush? Also, there is another Bush running who jumped all over Trump for his McCain comments but who wrote a letter to the swift boat group praising them for their support to his brother.

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Take a bow, Republicans.

You fought for unlimited money in elections, since money = speech.
You mock community organizers and yearn for a businessman who would run government like a business.
You detest civility and “political correctness” in favor of crudely “telling it like it is.”
You reject the spirit of compromise in favor of attack ads and the politics of personal destruction.
You want a president you can have a beer with, and who doesn’t talk like he’s smarter than you.
You attack public education, teacher’s unions, the arts and humanities, academics and the “cultural elites” in favor of dumbed-down and simplistic “common sense.”
You attack mainstream media and public broadcasting in favor of ratings-driven hate radio shock jocks and Fox News.
You reject cultural and ethnic diversity in favor of “real Americans.”
You celebrate intolerance, bigotry and hatred as “religious freedom.”
You elect clueless, unaccountable anti-government motormouths with no loyalty to their constituents in a misguided effort to rein in the “government overreach” of “career politicians.”

With each new iteration and election cycle you have managed to further coarsen and debase the level of civic discourse and political participation.

Having made “liberal” a slur, you now have made “moderate” an epithet worthy of derision.

And now, as your party leaders cringe powerlessly, you cheer on the unprecedented spectacle of a yahoo and vulgarian, a cartoonish reality TV “boss” with national name recognition, notoriety and multi-billions at his disposal making a mockery of not only your primaries but the country’s entire electoral process.

Congratulations, Republicans, on the fulfillment and culmination of your efforts.

At long last, take a bow.

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