Discussion: How These Diehard Conservatives Came To Love Obamacare

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Our former governor went for ACA because at the time the state needed the federal funds big time. The legislature fought her tooth and nail. They didn’t want the $3 billion doallars. They thought cutting education, again, was the way to go. Now various members use the ACA and still fight it. Some how they think it is a logical idea. They succeed in giving my state a black eye … again. Sometimes being the left leaning independent I am in a sea of republicans is a lonely place to be.

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This just proves to me that Tea Party Republicans are the tools of nonresident billionaires. Republicans who sincerely try to represent the people who live in most districts are going to naturally have about a 10% chance of doing something halfway sensible.

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And yet in this rural red county in a very red state, it’s only taken a couple of years for federally-subsidized health care to quietly seep into the hinges of everyday life and governance.

Hardly seems surprising, it could just follow the paths left by all the other federal-susidizing the locals receive.

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(wry smile) I’d give it a lower percentage.

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The crazy, it burns. And these folks are still protected by the rules that require hospitals to treat first and bill later…

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This article just illustrates yet again that the vast majority of people who are opposed to the ACA are simply ignorant knuckledragging dumbfucks.

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Perhaps more notable is Mack’s casual admission that he currently has health care coverage. He received it recently as part of his impending employment at the Phoenix-area private school Heritage Academy, where he will be teaching American History starting in August.

Great. Just… Great.

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Awww. And they thought overturning the ACA would only hurt poor people.

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To live within the cloud of ideology – Nothing else seems to matter – Kind of like addicts protecting their supply –

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ThiS iS ANoTHer REason WHY OHbummerCARE is an ABJEct FAILure. NOT onlY Are 6 MillION peoPLE lOSing coVERage BEcaUSE of OHBummercARE, It is ALso caUSINg coGnative DIssoNANCe aMONG FeLLOW COnserVATives WHO HAte THE bILL beCAUSe It is JUSt aNOTher frEE goverNMEnt HANDout. THANk goD I have MY VA!1!1!!!one!1!!!1!!!

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And/or people so wrapped up in team sport politics they’re willing to ruin their own lives or the lives of their constituents just to avoid having to admit they were wrong or grossly misinformed.

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Richard Mack is against what he calls a welfare state. Except that’s not what access to affordable health care is.

OECD supported research has demonstrated over and over that countries with pockets of the population unsupported by health systems find it harder to achieve sustained economic growth. Health is an investment in prosperity.

As for its constitutionality, Article I, Section 8 is pretty clear. If he wants to sacrifice his and his wife’s health because some politician gave him a fruitcake interpretation of the general welfare clause, that’s his business. I hope his wife doesn’t have another MRSA attack.

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2011: ā€œRepeal Obummercare’! It’s unconstitutional and socialism!!! ~garble, garble!~ā€

2012: ā€œStop Obummercare…VOTE REPUBLICAN!!! ~garble!!!~ā€

2013: ā€œWe will defund Obamacare! Our constituents demand it! ~I think!~ā€

2014: ā€œObamacare has some problems; we must fix! The people demand it!ā€

2015: ā€œIt’s the Affordable Care Act…Many Red states find it’s helping their consitutents and we hope to make it better!ā€

(*SCOTUS rips into the ACA: Along with millions of Democrat voters, millions of GOP voters lose their less expensive and better health insurance.)

2016: ā€œWe invented a way to help uninsured Americans get coverage…It’s called ā€˜ELIFICARE’!___You won’t hold it against us…will you?ā€

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Mack is a dope, and even the voters of AZ figured it out before they didn’t re-elect him. He wants the govt out of healthcare, yet hypocritically fails to see that the employer-sponsored healthcare he likes is (a) govt-subsidized because it is both a tax-deductible expense to the employer and a non-taxable benefit to the employee, and (b) was a direct outgrowth of govt policy during WW2 to address a labor shortage in an era when there were wage/price controls. Employers (like Kaiser Ship-Builders) offered free healthcare as a perk. The tradition stuck in the illogical way that is American Exceptionalism. Kaiser is now a healthcare concern. No more ships.

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Republicans are an odd bunch. They love the benefits of the ACA, but they can’t wait to get rid of it, because Obama.

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I suppose he’s in denial that the government is subsidizing his employer-paid coverage.

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It should also be noted on the timeline:

2011 - 2015: We’ll replace it!
2011 - 2015: No plan for replacement.

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Yup! That’s the ā€œElificare.ā€ ; -)

The dummies don’t believe in ā€˜state’ sponsored healthcare but it’s cool if they rack up bills that their neighbors taxes pay for.
How much more evidence does this man need? He and his wife rack up bills and have near death experiences but refuse to buy private health insurance because they hate the person that made it possible. His stubbornness could kill his wife and possibly himself, leaving his children without parents and all that he can manage is, I don’t approve of Obamacare.
I’m sure he’s blaming blacks and ā€˜illegals’ too for sucking up government services, meaning, they might be just ahead of him in line for the handouts.

Hopefully when Dick Mack begins teaching history he doesn’t stop at Reagan but actually shows what Reagan’s philosophy has done to America and how he is a victim of that failed philosophy. Lack of government is the problem and the inability to recognize or admit that also too.

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