Discussion for article #225500
Can’t legislate, and bloviate didn’t work, so now we’re left with litigate. Governing never occurs to the GOP.
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Please proceed, wingnuts.
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This question might have already been answered, but here goes:
If the full House approves this, will it need to go to the Senate, and then the President’s desk for his signature, to be enacted?
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Sour Grapes and White Lightning.
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House GOP leadership aides said they chose to target Obamacare because they believe it gives them the best chance of success in court.
This is like the old Bazooka Joe gag about the gang looking for a lost quarter. Hungry Herman asks Joe where he lost it. Joe says over by the corner.
“Then why are you searching under the streetlight?” Herman asks.
“Because the light is better here,” Joe says.
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Of course it’s a political exercise. But we should all welcome that because they have been so spectacularly beaten up by some of their other political exercises over the course of this Congress.
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There they go again, focusing “like a laser beam” on jobs.
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No. This isn’t legislation.
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I thought the GOP didn’t believe in suing. What are they suing for, some kind of monetary damages? On what grounds? I’m so confused. Thank God our country is in the hands of true political leaders like the tea party.
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Bring it on, bozos.
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Democrats fumed that the lawsuit was a “political exercise” aimed at ginning up the GOP base ahead of the November congressional elections.
Two can play that game. Democrats should sound the alarm that the lawsuit is merely a precursor to impeachment. They should be telling their constituents that Republicans are trying to do to Obama exactly what they did to Bill Clinton, and that the only way to stop Republicans is to vote this fall.
Democrats could reap big benefits from this lawsuit. First, they could use it to remind people that the last Democratic president, a president who also pulled us out of an economic ditch, was subjected to the same attempts to undermine his presidency. That would give them the opportunity to finally start talking positively about the huge economic gains that have been made under the Obama presidency. For instance, a Democrat could say, “Now that we’ve had the 5th straight month of over 200,000 private sector jobs created, now that the Dow is over 17,000 and the economy is finally coming back, Republicans want to undermine the president’s success with impeachment just like they did with President Clinton.”
Secondly, they could use the lawsuit and threat of impeachment to scare up some Democratic votes. Tell them that if they don’t go vote this fall, if Republicans hold the House, they will likely try to impeach the president. Black folks, Hispanics, young’ins, women, etc. could be reminded that not voting on election day could lead to their 2012 vote being wiped out by a Republican majority.
This is a win-win for Democrats. The lawsuit is likely to fail but even if Republicans prevail it won’t change a thing. By the time a court would even take up the matter the extensions would likely be expired. Democrats should realize they have an opportunity to use this lawsuit to fire up their base far more than it will fire up the Republican base. The Republican base sees the suit as a mere capitulation to what should, in their minds, be grounds for impeachment. Never let even a faux crisis go to waste.
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And Johnny Walker Black.
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The “grounds” appear to be that Obama has harmed their ability to write laws, by not enforcing (to their exact specifications) the ones they’ve passed.
They need to prove the harm (prove standing), AND they have to convince the court that they were left with no other means than to sue.
They will fail on both fronts.
This lawsuit is supposed to appease the “IMPEACH!!1!!” crowd.
It won’t.
It’s actually pissing THEM off too (see Erick Erickson’s article on it). But John threatened it, and now he’s stuck with it.
B(e)o(h)ner move.
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So Boehner is actually going to go through with his plan of suing Obama for not implementing a law that he and his party hates fast enough, even though they’ve tried 50+ times to repeal it in some form.
On an election year? Yep, this is TOTALLY going to work and not backfire in any way, shape, or form.
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Exactly, these clowns keep trying to placate their rabid base but all it does is further infuriate them. Every bit of red meat Boehner throws out at them just makes them want more and more. When is he going to figure out the logic behind “don’t feed the animals”?
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There’s the matter of “standing”, which people smarter than I have talked about. and explained more cogently. The House has no standing to sue because it was not harmed. So, the happy idiots on their way to five-week summer camp can delude themselves any way they want, but it’s manure, and they won’t find any flowers growing in it.
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Thanks for that explanation of standing. It’s what’s going to shut the baggers down.
True. And even if they can prove some sort of injury, isn’t that negated by the fact that they’re on record having voted 50 times in favor of slowing or stopping implementation? If you’re my neighbor and I’m on record as having made 50 legal attempts to keep you from building a privacy fence, can I really prove injury if I then sue you for delaying building the fence?
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Please explain how you will bring down the Obama administration by forcing them to implement a law that will be implemented by the time a court hears the case?
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