Discussion: House Judiciary Committee Ready To Subpoena Full Mueller Report On April 3

Iā€™ve noted this before. Why do we assume the 400 page report represents an accurate, unbiased and complete presentation of Muellerā€™s investigation? If I was a member of Congress, provided all 400 pages unredacted, Iā€™d still think ā€œOK, what went into producing these 400 pages? Was anything important left out? Was anything summarized to such a degree that what Iā€™m reading now leads me astray from asking more questions about any number of topics? Why should I trust these 400 pages are sufficient for rendering judgments and serving as a platform for further investigation?ā€

Why the hell doesnā€™t Congress demand every terabyte of the investigation? Thatā€™s a question needing asked and answered.

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Hey, Donald?

Have a nice week, sweetheart.

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Float like a butterfly, sting like a motherf**kin beeā€¦

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Because Mueller can come before anyone of these committees to testify about his investigations. But without seeing the full report how cam members of the committees question or investigate anything?

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Not to disparage Ali but Iā€™ve been stung by wasps and hornets that hurt way more than a bee. Go full swarm.

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When they do, let me know.

Excellent. Fight tooth and nail to get the full report. Stop at nothing. Break rules if you have to. Get the report.

Dems are playing good politics here. Theyā€™ve put the release of the Mueller Report into every news cycle. This letter is largely superfluous in terms of adding or asking anything new, but itā€™s just another reminder that this is a vulnerable issue for Trump and the GOP and that the Dems have both public opinion and the law on their side. I like it when my party does politics well. People dismiss politics, but good politics save lives and protect people.

Substantively, the Dems have to move quickly from authorizing subpoenas to issuing them. They should be throwing them at the WH like darts at a dart boardā€¦ā€˜you get oneā€¦and you get oneā€¦and hereā€™s one for youā€¦and youā€¦and donā€™t worry, I didnā€™t forget about you.ā€™. From a political standpoint, the best timing would be right after the public protests that are scheduled for later this week.

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The tossing out of paper towels comes to mindā€¦ :smile:

Yeah, so far Nadler has talked a good gameā€¦

I wonder, where are the subpoenas for anyone on the list of 81 he composed in his document demand that refused to comply? The deadline passed several weeks ago, right?

His four-page dispatch to Congress on the ā€œprincipal conclusionsā€ of the
report [ā€¦] were never intended as a ā€œsummary,ā€ the Attorney General
clarified.

Mueller of course wrote his own summary (Stating that a 400 page report has an executive summary seems about as obvious as saying that a horse has a head, tail and four legs). You may draw your own conclusions about the fact that even that has not been released.

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Indeed hahaā€¦I once stepped on a wasp nest on a Boy Scouts hike and couldā€™ve filled 6 swear jars with the shit that came out of my mouth. Of course, I did end up stung on the inside of a cheek for not keeping my mouth shut. Whatā€™s surprising is THEY GET EVERYWHEREā€¦I mean, itā€™s like layers of clothes and ear canals donā€™t matter. Good times.

And hey, the past decade or so of American politics has been just like that. Electing Obama was like stepping on the WASP nestā€¦

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To be fair, theyā€™re demanding all the backup material too.

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Only been two weeks. He got tens of thousands of documents back. Since he had requested the same things from multiple parties, his staff is sifting through what they got, then theyā€™ll see whatā€™s still missing (i.e. if you ask Pete and Bob for all e-mail correspondence between them, and only Bob complies, you still have a copy of Peteā€™s e-mails, so donā€™t need to subpoena that).

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GOP/Trump: The Mueller report so like totally, tremendously, beautifully and bigly exonerates Trump that thereā€™s no need to actually, you know, release it, and only a crazed lunatic would think otherwise!

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So? Mueller no doubt delineated what could and couldnā€™t be released, and to whom, well before he completed his report. I doubt that he left anything to Barr, both because thatā€™s not how Mueller or any good investigator works, and because he surely knew that this would be used to stonewall its release. I bet that a version of the report was ready to be released on day one, and this is all, well, stonewalling.

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Itā€™s not clear that the 400 pages will contain anything on the counterintelligence investigation. Itā€™s not clear that the 400 pages will contain anything on the criminal prosecutions/investigations are are ongoing which stemmed from the counterintel probe. For example, the Roger Stone indictment is among the clearest ā€˜collusionā€™ cases which Barrā€™s statement ignored. Thatā€™s ongoing. If you read that indictment, it looks like a 3/4 complete puzzle and you can see the puzzle notches where ā€˜Trump Campaignā€™ or ā€˜Donald Trump/Trump Jrā€™ would fit in. But thatā€™s all the more reason to get the full, unredacted report now including the counterintelligence piece. [EDIT: To finish an incomplete point - the Mueller Report may be the first of many things we need to track down about what Mueller did. It may not be as comprehensive b/c standard practice would be to separate the counterintelligence info from prosecution/non-prosecution decisions].

What I expect to see and learn:

  • The collusion probe is ongoing. It was never stopped, only briefly distracted from by Barrā€™s antics.
  • The evidence on obstruction will be clear and will contain new things that we didnā€™t know.
  • The extent of foreign interference and influence in the Trump Administration/GOP will shock most Americans.
  • The risks we face of foreign powers undermining our Democracy will be clearer to people.
  • Adam Schiff will have wide public support to explore the degree to which Trump is personally compromised.
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Mueller definitely did not delineate what could and couldnā€™t be released. That wasnā€™t his job or within his purview. He left much to Barr, including what decision to make on charging obstruction.

Itā€™s certainly all stonewalling though, because a version of the the Mueller report was indeed ready for release to Congress on day one. That version would be the complete unredacted version that Congress is entitled to. You seem to be accepting the idea that parts need to be redacted. They absolutely donā€™t. Donā€™t give them that inch.

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Naw, he defined it out of existence. Since their footnoted definition of ā€œcooperationā€ was narrowly defined as an agreement directly with the russkie government, merely colluding with an intermediary like wikileaks could never have been defined as ā€œcooperationā€.

Mother English is rolling in her grave at the assault on the languageā€¦

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