Discussion: House Fails To Override Trump's Veto Of His Border Wall Declaration

I wonder if they’ll actually lose the military vote or if people will continue to vote against their own self interest just to “Stick it to the Libs!”?

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Will the courts allow Trump to usurp the Constitutional requirement that Congress must approve spending? If the Courts strip Congress of this power, we should apologize to Queen Elizabeth II and seek resumption of British rule, since our revolution was all for naught.

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Yeah, this is a bad look for him.

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The principled and honorable House Republicans will now resign en masse either because they have violated their oath to protect and defend the Constitution or, in the words of KAC, for “peddling a lie, day after day after day, unchallenged and not under oath” that Mexico would pay for the wall.

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could be the default beginning of any story about djt.

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So Mexico will not be paying for “The Wall”?

:confused:

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I hope that every single congresscritter from Texas enjoys hearing from their constituents regarding any seizure of their properties for the “emergency.”

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McClintock is one of the eight Rs in the House from CA (as opposed to 45 Ds). He has to make bigger and better and more cliched-filled noise in order to not reduce that figure to less than eight.

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The Wall is good enough, tall enough and doggone it people like it.

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Sorry buddy.

But it would be interesting for an enterprising MSM journalists ( I know, leprechauns and unicorns), to start tracking just how much of the money Trump starts redirecting finds it ways into his pockets. :wink:

Because if anyone believes that Trump having control over the purse strings isn’t going to end up with him wetting his beak…A LOT…hasn’t been paying attention.

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I don’t think the statement about playing gold during a National Emergency is accurate… unless I am misunderstanding the definition of National Emergency.

We have, I think, 31 National Emergencies currently in force. A number for many many years. See below.

From Wikipedia…
As of February 2019, 59 national emergencies had been declared, with 31 of them being renewed annually. These include the eight that were declared prior to the passage of the 1976 Act.[1][4][19] The longest continuing national emergency dates back to November 1979 by the Carter administration blocking Iranian government property under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.[20]

Since passage of the National Emergencies Act in 1976, every U.S. President has declared multiple national emergencies: Carter (2); Reagan: (6); H.W. Bush (4); Clinton (17); W. Bush (12); Obama: (13); Trump (4).

From the same article

" An activation would expire if the President expressly terminated the emergency, or did not renew the emergency annually,"

Some Presidents have renewed it once or even a few times (Carter), but there are not currently 31 national emergencies in effect. The statement you are referring means that out of the 59 declared national emergencies, 31 have been renewed beyond their year deadline…not that 31 are still in effect.

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If this shows up in my nightmares in either Trump’s or Al Franken’s voice… we will have words!
:neutral_face:

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This should be repeated every day from now until the election by every Dem presidential candidate, officeholder and potential challenger for a R seat.

Trump the dealmaker couldn’t cut a deal with Mexico, he couldn’t cut a deal with Congress and is now can only fund it by weakening our national security. Why does Trump hate the troops?

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I dug a little deeper and there are still 31 national emergencies in effect. Link below. (Which shocked me when I learned of it a month or so ago)

Look, I’m not disagreeing with you that Trump is a POS for declaring an emergency and spending days playing golf. Just that the “no president has ever…” declaration was not accurate to my understanding.

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This. Exactly this.

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OK. Symbolic vote is over. How about issuing some subpoenas?

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Don’t forget. Just like the affordable care act numerous votes by the Repubs during Obama. The House can pass legislation again and again requiring the Senate to respond. If they pass it again (questionable) then Trump will have to veto again.

Why do this? To keep this shitty shitty thing Trump has done on the forefront of awareness.

AT this point I am hoping they seize private property. That is going to set some people on fire in Texas.

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