Discussion: Hillary Clinton: Setting Up A Private Email Server 'Wasn't The Best Choice'

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Concede that it might not have been the best choice, but it was not an uncommon choice, as we have seen repeatedly demonstrated by the others, including State Department Secretaries like Colin Powell, who did much the same.

This is the part she needs to emphasize. I know, the excuse of ‘everyone else was doing it’ is a terrible one, but at the moment, the media are making it look as though it’s never been done before in the history of the world, along with the so-called illegality of it.

Both those points - never done before and illegal - need to be tamped down as patently false. Period.

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It’s my understanding that various department heads were using non-governmental email for government business. This only became an issue after a memo was sent around to the department heads asking them to comply with the law regarding archiving their emails.

The tenor of those remarks differed from the manner in which Clinton previously responded to questions about the private email server.

The tenor?? She still didn’t do anything illegal. Isn’t that the bottom line? Who gives a shit about what you think of her “tenor”. This is all political bullshit anyway. Its still an effort to lower her poll numbers by her adversaries, and claim she’s “untrustworthy”…their favorite tagline to any story involving Hillary. This is where they hope to get their main traction, and it isn’t working.

Its nothing more than the continuing saga Republicans have drummed up in their Stage 2 witch-hunt over Benghazi. Fucking Benghazi, Libya! What year was that anyway…I forget now. Un-fucking-believable. They’re still stuck on that, needing to prove themselves right, even though they’ve had all this time and its gone absolutely nowhere. So many years wasted with tax-payer dollars into the millions, holding countless subcommittees and investigations, all in hopes of funding efforts to smear Hillary and Obama over Zombie Benghazi. And the MSM still continues to play along. Only now you hear nothing about Obama in the mix. Guess that’s how we know Republicans already consider him a lame duck. Including him doesn’t give them any particular political advantage if he’s included in their accusations now. Its all about Hillary…the calculating, conniving, catty conspirator…colluding with who??? Classified, my ass. That’s occurring only after the fact now, by some retroactive opinion by others apparently. So this continues to be a non-story. A real snoozer. But by all means, don’t expect the media to quit trying to muddy the information and report the facts.

If only the media had been as worked up over Iraq when we went to war. If only they had seen through the political bullshit the Bushies and Rove & Co. planned when they deleted 5 million official WH emails, deemed part of the official record of the Bush Administration, which should have been kept legally on WH servers as part of the records act. Those fucking emails were all subverted. Rove ran those through RNC servers and then wiped those clean for their own re-election efforts. How much more political can you get? And you think Hillary is the problem? Bullshit.

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But, but, but…the narrative! Won’t someone please think of the narrative!!!

Without being able to write opinion pieces slamming Hillary, what else are they supposed to report on? News?!

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One can only hope that sooner or later the “journalists” will pivot to talking about the candidates’ positions on issues that actually matter to the lives of the American people. I really don’t want to hear another word about this email nonsense, unless they discover that Hillary turns out to be the modern day Julius and Ethel Rosenberg or some such thing.

I wonder how the Clinton Hater DeCoder Rings translate this?

There’s plenty to take her to task over…but this ain’t it. This bullshit narrative won’t hold. It will work against them. The only ones wanting to believe something nefarious is going on all live in the DC bubble of political bullshit and non-stop muckraking. Republicans outside the beltway right now all seemingly love assholes like tRump or maybe its Carson…Their angst is beyond normal limits anyway but that’s only because they’re fucking bonkers.

Besides, if we want to talk emails…lets start with what Jebby did with his in FL.

Shades of Mort Sahl.

When someone is good at something it usually is a combination aptitude and subsequent practice. Hillary is going to have to get (or promote from within her organization) someone to handle the MSM (forget about FOX and Talk/Radio-that is axiomatically impossible) with those characteristics. With some politicians it is more natural (like FDR).

We also need to bear in mind that this is not the MSM we all grew up on. It is deeply and institutionally skewed to the right, it is commercially allied with fossil fuels, it is far more profit-driven (which means that, should Trump–or worse–gets the GOP nomination, the MSM will Horserace and False Equivalent the candidates to the nth degree).

It’s a technical problem and quite doable. How to tell its success?

If PEOPLE (not talking heads) wish for Hillary to win in the Primaries and the General in a more emotional manner.

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Along with the point that in determining for herself which emails were work-related and which personal, she was exercising precisely the same discretion, by law, as every federal employee, whether formerly, from a single account, or currently, every time someone decides which account/device to use to send a given email. I’m sick of the “how do we KNOW she didn’t delete something incriminating???” BS; okay, fine, we’ll never truly know (cue sinister organ music) – just like we’ll never know that about any federal employee. Colin Powell told Politico he deleted all of his work-related email; somehow the media didn’t go crazy over that revelation. But, you know, Clinton Rules:

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Clinton Rules require not so much RWNJ’s (they are gone anyway)

They require a lazy, torpid, phlegmatic, somnolent and (more than anything else) detached outlook as it relates to public affairs.

The MSM assumes a great deal of authority with the public. If something is constantly repeated there MUST be a “there” there…in so many minds

It’s present-day lack of professionalism is partly the fault of the public, partly the fault of the journalistic practitioners who must wade in the editorial muck they are “assigned to” and chiefly the fault of “news-as-just-another-commodity-to-be-hyped-and-sold”, as opposed to its ideal intent to inform.

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Yup, that’s been a hobbyhorse of mine as well as yours for a long time. (And that’s what the link is referring to; title, “Confessions of a Clinton Reporter”…) And as the first cause I’d point to the staggering success of the right’s decades-long campaign to browbeat the “liberal media” into submission, which predates even the corporatization of the media; the combination has created the destructive excuse for “journalism” we have today.