Discussion for article #233936
Uh, not good. And another big âdingâ against her.
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
This seriously calls into question her judgment.
Thanks for the drama, Secretary Clinton!
I also think you may have to kiss your ambitions for the Oval Office goodbye. Hope that private e-mail account was worth it!
This is going to drag on well into next year. I cannot fathom what she, or anyone around her, was thinking when they decided this was a good thing to do. And how the eff didnât anyone else notice? Didnât her e-mail address signal something was amiss?
What a frikkinâ mess.
Bit of a conflict here. If you are going to do diplomacy, sometimes you need to have discussions with foreign people who donât want their discussions sitting on USG servers. That is not necessarily something presidential candidates should do. It is really hard to see this derailing her campaign, however, as the Romney bit suggests.
The right approach to me would be to have three email accounts. One totally personal, one @state.gov, and a work account that is hosted independently of .gov for sensitive external communications. If it is that sensitive, it probably shouldnât be email at all, however.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
IMO, this is an example of HRC exercising her demand for total control over everything she does, which is not necessarily a bad ting, EXCEPT when your job is public service. She honestly should have known better, and used more appropriate judgement in the conduct of her official capacity as SoS. Republicans will not let this die, and will tie this to Benghazi, and that rhetoric will become so loud that enough of her supporters will jump ship and support a slightly lesser candidate. This puts 2016 in jeopardy for the Dems. Shame on HRC.
More recently the committee learned that she used private email accounts exclusively and had more than one, Gowdy said.
More than one? How many more? This should be good. Republicans on their knees thanking God. Manna from the heavens. What is it with the Clintons?
Have you read Tomaskyâs piece on this?
This is not going to be so easy for any eRpublican candidiate to go after. I realize Jebbers tried yesterday, but heâs got that need to denounce his own brother. All the GOP types figure there shouldnât be ANY required paper trail ⌠for THEM!
Iâm on a minor run on this topic: yesterday, I posted in wonder that people somehow imagined HRC resorting to AOL or Hotmail or Gmail or the like, as do we mere peons, when it seemed obvious this would be an ultra secure remote private server âŚ
annnnnnnnnnd scene.
Resort to a private ultra secure service is no âslipâ, itâs deliberate and no doubt with an eye to running for the White House.
And who exactly do you imagine on the GOP side is seriously going to be able to pin on her the failure to adhere to a POLICY recommendation that wasnât even reduced to a National Archives regulation until AFTER she left the State Department? Do you seriously think that the coming cackle of GOP clowns are going to make a big deal out of this? How? WHY, when itâs what the GOP wants for itâs own, and given what Bush did with almost 6 frigginâ years of WH records?
Give your head a shake, and I donât just mean you in particular; everyone having a kitten over this ought to take a breath and a step back and realize this ainât goinâ nowhere.
Its just another chunk in the towering mound of sleazy things done by the Clintons. It all ads up to Clinton Fatigue.
Bingo! You got to exactly what I was thinking. It was stupid on her part because of - wait for it - Benghazi. This will solidify questions someone who isnât a RWNJ might have about her judgement ability. I realize sheâs a control freak and maybe thatâs justified - to an extent. I caught Alex Wagnerâs show, NOW, on MSNBC and lo behold theyâve got on HRC surrogate, Ed Rendell. As many people know, Rendell is basically a Rethug in Dem clothing. For the life of him, he just didnât see this as a problem since she didnât break any laws. Of course, he came across as not only an HRC toady, he also came across as clueless older person who didnât really get all the hoopla over email in general. It was all around bad.
I disagree that this puts Dems in jeopardy; quite the contrary, it gives us more breathing room when she loses the primary to someone who can really run a stronger campaign.
Iâll vote for HRC because there is no alternative thatâs not overtly neofascist.
That doesnât mean I have to pretend that this shit smells like lilacs. It smells like shit.
thatâs what is so mystifying about this⌠she knows sheâs under intense scrutiny for everything she does⌠that she would so cavalierly disregard the likely consequences of doing something like this is very troublesome. and now we can look forward to months more of investigations and subpoenas over this â and who knows what will be unearthed. trolling for dollars for the clinton foundation?
I would disagree; I think this does have legs.
Are you kidding? Fox is going to repeat this 24/7 and the mainstream media will keep it languishing in the background whenever they do a story on her. It doesnât matter that JEB released a whole bunch of e-mails with personal and confidential information on them. This is going to reported as MUCH different.
So, one thing that everyone seems to be missing here. Government agency policy on email use generally covers not only where you can receive and send email from, but also where you can send sensitive information to. So if anyone else in State or the White House was communicating with her at that address, they were subject to these considerations as well. This arrangement had to be well known to many, including IT and Information Security folks, as well as the Chief of Staff, and likely the President. This simply isnât something that HRC could up and do by herself without at least the implied consent of all those who used the channel to communicate with her. So this is either a massive conspiracy or a nothing burger. I tend to lean toward the latter.
Indictment, please.
Get a hold of yourself.
âSo?!â âGo f__ yerself.â ~ Dick Cheney
I gotta give it to her, pretty slick move and better than all the other attempts by public officials. Still dumb move in the long run though.
So todayâs installment is sheâs too secure? This inchoate media BS is already tedious. Chappaqua might make Ft. Knox seem loose but then again I bet they match the GOP top tier no matter poor Moosiliniâs Gmail (snicker) account.
âPresident Barack Obama signed a bill last year that bans the use of private email accounts by government officials unless they retain copies of messages in their official account or forward copies to their government accounts within 20 days. The bill did not become law until more than one year after Clinton left the State Department.â
And the NYTimes did not know this at the time they began speculating that she may have broken the law?
So when did the NYTs become Jeb Bushâs house organ?
Theyâve continued the practice with a new article which essentially recounts the difficulties in declassifying the millions of classified pieces but imports Hillary into it solely as click bait.