No one believes that HHS will meet the upcoming deadlines. Then what happens??? An immigration attorney on MSNBC identified another negative, long-term consequence of this separation practice. She said some of the kids (because they don’t have a clear understanding of what has happened and why) are wondering if their parents abandoned them. The attorney offered anecdotal evidence of ICE agents actually suggesting this to vulnerable children. Reunification (IF it happens) won’t begin to solve this fiasco created by the Trump administration.
Horrifying. They all should hang for this.
I would settle for civil contempt imprisonment of the responsible chains of command.
Btw, previous reports say that the govt is counting children as not separated from their parents as long as they’re in the same facility, even if they’re in different cages and not allowed to see or talk to each other. I expect this will be another ploy to be used.
And I’m still wondering whether these folks now have a colorable claim for asylum in any third country, based on being unlawfully targeted for torture by the US, based on their national origin and beliefs.
They’ll “lose” the list and claim it’s done because there’s no one on the (new) list.
He said he could not give a more exact number because “information from children may be unreliable.”
Information from this administration is unreliable.
CNN was reporting at Noon that ICE is now saying there are 3,000 kids still not identified not the less than 2,000 as they said over the weekend and holiday. Trump has not idea who these kids are nor does anyone in the GOP care as long as their donors are making money off this atrocity. Republicans have kidnapped kids and shipped them to whatever private prison setup that would give them the biggest kickback.
One has to wonder how many were sold into child prostitution. Has anybody checked Rush Limbaugh’s travel plans during the 4th?
This is a human rights violation of the most disgusting nature.The entire Republican Party needs to lawyer up because none of them are going to be visiting overseas unless it’s to Russia from now on. They can kiss their visas goodbye in the civilized world. Nobody wants to associate with such monsters.
And to think they tried to brand themselves as family values Christians. Republicans would have sold Jesus into slavery if they had had a chance. Sold his body parts to people like Cheney?
If information from children is unreliable, then perhaps, just perhaps YOU SHOULD CONSIDER KEEPING BETTER GODDAM RECORDS WHEN YOU SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS
(sorry. But really, these asswipes blaming innocent others for the consequences of a situation that the asswipes created, well, it kinda annoys me.)
(Also, an apology to real toilet paper and other wiping products, which perform a useful function)
It’s immoral and indecent. The entire Congressional Republican contingency needs to be voted out in the Midterms and Trump indicted by The Hague for crimes against humanity.
Right there with you.
Bill Shine will shine some Faux News light on the truth for this White House? This is one atrocity that the Conservative Movement can’t spin with decent people. The Pro Life people are already turning on them in the Catholic Church.
That caught my eye as well. We can’t trust them to tell us who there parents are. But asking kids to represent themselves in asylum hearings is a-ok.
I hope the judges who are hearing the lawsuits against this administration are following this.
I hereby nominate you for the Understatement of the Year award. (and I no longer believe any info or statistics coming from anyone even remotely associated with the Trump administration.)
Another angry white nationalist.
The message needs to be going out that the willingness of the BP, ICE and the rest of these neofascist law enforcement clowns to treat their fellow human beings in this manner when they’re illegal brown immigrants… “just following orders”…is a test run and desensitization/normalization training for them for when the orders come down for law enforcement to treat their fellow citizens in this manner, and it all constitutes glowing evidence that they’ll be more than willing to follow those orders as well. Authoritarian hate and gleeful abuse of power don’t actually engage in niceties like distinguishing between those perceived as their enemies based on distinctions like “you’re here legally and you’re not”, which they perceive as meaningless. You are either with them or against them, and only want you to think they operate under such distinctions for as long as it conveniently convinces you to not take action because it ain’t your turn YET.
“No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
This from the 14th amendment shows POTUS and all people in the Border patrol, ICE and HHS that carry out the order from POTUS are all in violation of the 14th amendment. They should all, to a person, be brought before a court of law and justice served to them.
Trump probably would have gotten along pretty well with old King Herod.
Azar also characterized the “zero tolerance” policy of the Trump administration — which involves criminally prosecuting everyone who commits the civil infraction of crossing into the country without papers — as the only alternative to “open borders.”
Sure. Because until Beauregard Sessions, acting as the savior of the white race nation, implemented his Zero Humanity policy, it is well known that there were no border controls of any kind.
Except that the Trumpwits also manage to simultaneously believe that “Obama did it too”.
Cognitive dissonance becomes national policy. Except without the “cognitive” part.
Something that a social worker friend of mine pointed out to me that’s being overlooked - in addition to traumatizing the migrant children and parents, this is also traumatizing US children who are seeing American adults throwing children in cages.
For children below a certain age the logical question is, “When will this happen to me?”
As if just keeping track that Kid Case # [kidcaseID] was separated from immigration case # [immigrationcaseID] at point xyz on date mm/dd/yy hh:mm by agent [agentID] was just too hard or not a painfully obvious minimum requirement.
I just saw a headline that they are now going to resort to DNA to match kids with parents. As if that 100% guarantees correctly matching kids separated from people who they considered their parent who likewise considered the kid their kid.
This stain will live with our nation forever. Like slavery and WWII internment.
This stain will live with our nation forever. Like slavery and WWII internment.
I absolutely agree. Even if they are successful at reuniting 100% of these families, much of the damage has been done. Privacy experts are also concerned about how those DNA results could be used in the future to track these family members for nefarious purposes.