Discussion: Heritage Action Threatens Key Vote Against Partial Obamacare Repeal Effort

Finally it’s been found, a video of the Republicans marching lockstep to vote against anything Obama!
Their lockstep marching begins at roughly 1:00 into this video!

I’d be willing to bet that since Jim DeMint took over Heritage, there has been no love lost between Republican leadership and Heritage. It’s become nothing more than an institutionalized arm of the Tea Party.

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This is rich, the organization that O-Care was derived from is advocating repeal… tells you exactly what the current GOP/TP and supporter are about… that black man in the WH as a leader rather than a butler in the back room that everyone can see through, i.e.ignore.

Heritage Action for America – the lobbying arm of the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation"

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You missed an important benefit that Lestatdelc realized from his actions: “They went into radio silence after that email.”

My father used to include me on some of the email wingnuttery he would regularly trade with friends and relatives of his generation. I fact-checked those that made objective claims, added the message that “people who deliberately lie to you are not your friends”, and hit Reply All. I don’t get those emails anymore, and our relationship is better for it.

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Have you checked on the “quasis” since sending that documentation? The cognitive dissonance might have been more than their cardiovascular system could handle.

LD

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yes, exactly. I believe The Nation had an article documenting the hard right turn Heritage has taken since DeMint has been in charge (perhaps before). Driven by the new-ish lobbying arm Heritage Action, it has abandoned all pretense of being a ‘neutral’ think tank and instead has become a completely ideology-driven arm of the Tea Party.

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what is truly sad is that this is not exactly a new discovery, that O’care was originally proposed by the right.

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So Republicans are targeting only certain aspects of the law – such as the individual and employer mandates – that, if repealed, would reduce the deficit. It would also almost certainly be vetoed by the president.

Yes, do that. It will hurt your base the most, as those without government or employer healthcare insurance will see enormous increases in their premiums.

The unique parts that the Heritage Foundation came up with were exactly the two things the Republicans are targeting. Maybe their fee-fees are hurted?

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Yes, and as recently as the summer of 2009 Sen. Grassley stated his support for the individual mandate.

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It’s spelled “freedumb.” Like the freedumb to shoot your friend accidentally while you play with your guns.

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Seriously, wingnuts? The “Restoring Americans’ Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act”?

It seems your time would be better spent researching and assessing the impact of effective legislation, rather than simply focusing on snappy and catchy but misleading titles for legislation that is certain to be Dead.On. Arrival.

But in any event, please proceed …

My in laws used to do this to me too. Until I kept responding to their entire list of addresses and tore the emails apart. With citations. That stopped pretty fast.

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It’s OK if it’s a republican idea you see. Buuuuut should a democrat like it? Heck a republican governor modified it and got it passed in Massachusetts. And they liked it! But heaven help a democrat who wants to do a good thing for everyone … then, you see it is a bad thing axiomatically.
Logic has nothing to do with the thought process.

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Well, yes, this is true. Their urgent need for epistemic closure can be manipulated to your advantage which is a perfectly good reason for doing this. Worked that “reply all” angle myself on an email forwarding a rant over the picture purporting to show Obama and Michelle saluting with their left hands by pointing out that the Marine in the background was going to be in big trouble when his sergeant saw that he’d pinned his ribbons and badges onto the wrong side of his tunic.

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Oh yeah, they will only discuss nonpolitical things now. So they didn’t drop dead, just pretending the exchange never occurred, and never acknowledged they were wrong, had a counter-argument, nothing. Just… silence on the matter. As if it never happened.

Of course I have de-bunked numerous chain-emails my better-half’s mother would send to all her Facebook friends and family (which is how I saw them). It was her and her significant other who demanded I prove the part about the ACA’s origins (my better-half’s parents are divorced).

After about the 5th or 6th various email debunkings, with links to snopes.com and often numerous other primary sources, I don’t get her derp-ish emails forwarded on from her Circle of Derp™ friends any more.

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Sounds somewhat similar to the outcome to what my quasi mother-in-law and her emails resulted in.

The funny part of this ACA exchange recently was that it came about because they were up from Arizona visiting her kids (who live here in Oregon) and they were over at my house because we (her daughter and I live together) had cable and they wanted to watch the first GOP debate last month.

I can’t recall what bit of goofiness said in the debate and by whom that brought up the ACA, but I snorted and laughed out about how it was a conservative idea in the first place. That was when they got all indignant and demanded I prove it. I sent them the email that night after they left (I politely told them I would dig up the documentation for them and send it on in email later).

Next day, nothing. The whole thing never occurred and the discussion was the usual light chitchat, etc. I asked Michele later to find out from them if they got my email. They told her they did… still nothing.

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Most of the GOP were all for it, until Democrats said yes. Then it became death panels, the government take-over of healthcare, the slippery slope to Hitler, yadda, yadda, yadda.

The GOP make Professor Quincy Adams Wagstaff (aka Groucho Marx) in Horse Feathers seem like an immutable man of principle.

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I mussst havvve thisssss…

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Actually, it’s Heritage Action - a separate sibling advocacy group with its own fundraising and leadership structure running in parallel to The Heritage Foundation’s. So they would deny having anything to do with The Heritage Foundation’s previous proposals.

That said, I don’t think it takes anything away from your observation. I’m just pointing out why they think they can get away with it, and why/how the media will justify not noting this particular piece of hypocrisy.

This is how I score my fantasy football team–unless they score a touchdown every time they touch the ball, they’re gone!

I have a very small team.