Discussion for article #240786
Paul Gosar : " I can’t agree with any inclinations that would stand in the way of my benefactors lining their pockets with huge profits" —
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it sort of boils down to a pretty succinct philosophy for Republicans…
we’ll listen to a foreign head of state that wants to goad us into a war in the Middle East for no apparent reason and without trying diplomacy but we won’t listen to a foreign head of state that counsels a belief in science and scientifically driven policy…
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Apparently Gosar has not only forgotten (or ignored) the Jesuit imperative to be “men and women for others” but rejects the authority of the Pope on matters of morality. I guess Gosar doesn’t feel morality has anything to do with government unless it’s used to berate women, gays or the poor. Now, I am no longer Catholic because I do reject the authority and, just because I happen to agree with this Pope in many areas I would not return to the church because of this position, among other matters. Gosar, on the other hand, claims to still be Catholic so he must either accept the Pope’s teaching or break with the church & no longer be Catholic. His blather sounds like basic Xian fundamentalism anyway.
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I understand (and understand well) that Popes very rarely invoke infallibility, but you would think that they’d show a bit more respect and thoughtfulness when the head of their church counsels them (or they expect him to counsel them) against their views.
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Before WWII the Vatican signed Agreements with Mussolini and Hitler (Lateran Treaty and Concordat of 1934). Sometimes they get is very wrong. Mr. Gosar may be a troglodyte but he has the right to express his opinion on this or any issue. This Pope is very popular at the moment. His pr. has been great. The next Pope may not have the common touch. He may be a hard-line Italian with no personality. The cost this Papal trip is in the millions. Catholic dioceses are putting up much of the money. NYC is hoping the Federal Government pays then back for the overtime costs of police etc. The Catholic Church gets donations from all sorts of people especially the rich kind. They rarely ask where it comes from. Please remember this Pope is temporary and Catholic or not we here in America have the right to disagree. Looking back on the writings of the Popes of the last century you will see many condemnations of democracy, Americanism and Modernism. So when you see silly pols. mocked on this board be grateful that you live in a place where you can disagree without penalty.
A Congressman from Arizona. Rising temperatures have already fried his brain.
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“When the pope chooses to act and talk like a leftist politician, then he can expect to be treated like one,” he sniffs.
I’m aware of someone else Who acted and talked like a leftist politician.
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Will there be any Catholic Cardinals/Bishops calling for denial of communion to this apostate congressman? Isn’t that de rigueur for opposition to the church’s position on issues?
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So a guy referring to Genesis is a judge of scientific research? Bet the world is 6000 years old too.
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Rep. Gosar, and other politicians in a state of comfortable denial, can continue to hit the snooze button or choose to be part of the solution.
Well, it’s clear this Jesuit trained fool slept through that class during his education, so hitting the snooze button would at least be consistent.
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Hornblower said,
he [Gosar] has the right to express his opinion on this or any issue
What is your point? Who has said he doesn’t have the right to express his opinion? Of course he does, and other people have a right to express their opinion on Gosar’s statement.
Please remember this Pope is temporary and Catholic or not we here in America have the right to disagree.
Again, you seem to think that people being critical of Gosar’s statement means that people are trying to strip is right to state his opinion. You are tilting at a strawman of your own making.
So when you see silly pols. mocked on this board be grateful that you live in a place where you can disagree without penalty.
Thanks for reminding us; we liberals are completely ignorant and think that living here is just like living in North Korea.
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Gosar is a fairly typical of today’s Republicans, who are more like ME-publicans, they got theirs, so screw everyone else and anyone who tries to point out their hypocrisy.
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Gosar’s just trying to push the petrosexual agenda.
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Gosar’s just bitter because he thought he was going to be elected Pope this time around.
I’ve just got to laugh as I shake my head in wonder… climate change is political therefore Pope should keep quite, however, talking about PP or abortion is not political and is OK for the Pope to speak against.
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Sir or Madam I was a progressive before you were born. I just think that the rock-star affection for this Pope is overdone.
That would be an interesting question to ask Rep. Gosar. The Catholic church has never advocated the 6000 year idea because they are not of the opinion that the Bible is to taken literally. They actually have whole lots to say on the subject of literalism. Gosar, being the product of a Catholic education, would know this. If he now buys into the 6000 yr fan club, he can hardly claim to be “Catholic.”
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Occam’s Razor Explanation— Gosar wanted to raise his profile to a wider audience and so is riding the pope’s cassock.
He’s relying on MEDIA REPORTS about what the Pope will say? So he trusts the MEDIA? Some conservative this guy is…