But Davis’ great-great grandson, Bertram Hayes-Davis, says his ancestor was a statesman with a broad list of accomplishments who’s being unfairly demonized.
No. Nothing unfair at all about our view of the traitorous scum who should have been either shot or hanged at the end of the war.
About a 1/3rd of the names of streets in most SC cities such as Wilmington need to get the old heave-ho.
Looks like it has been a bad couple of days for “The Stars &Bars” and “Ole Dixie.” Let’s hope it continues! Finally!! Now, if we could just shut up those f******* Texans!
Davis’ great-great grandson, Bertram Hayes-Davis, says his ancestor was a statesman with a broad list of accomplishments who’s being unfairly demonized.
A. pretty sure engaging in active warfare against the United States kinda eliminates the “statesman” portion of the statement.
B. As for the other accomplishments, kinda sure item A overshadows and pretty well negates them
This is fantastic. Wherever you go, we are seeing more and more people and businesses making the right decision and pulling this flag down. It’s racist and offensive. We can thank Mitt Romney (the original RINO) for starting this onslaught of political support for taking the flag down. Everyone wants it down…http://www.topicalwinds.com/Topics/Should-South-Carolina-Remove-The-Confederate-Flag-From-Their-Statehouse.php?topic=324
I actually think I might start shopping at Wal-Mart again!
I agree. But it is much more of a tall order to cure biases of individuals, much less difficult to end official racism by official state/city/county entities. However, the more a community’s police force reflects the minority make-up of the community demographic, the better I think it will be trusted by the community… And restoring trust with its community is probably the number one thing a police department can do to be perceived as a fair law enforcement institution.
…Plus it’s probably way too heavy as statues go.
The NRA is probably happy that only a small part of the talk surrounding the murder of the Charleston victims has been about the firearm. Almost all the talk and media focus has been about the Confederate flag and the avowed racism and hate of the killer.
Didn’t bother them when it hurt millions of others. Now that it hurts them politically, it’s got to go. Whatever. Good riddance.
Very interesting. Thank you. But I disagree with:
The Confederate flag is about symbolism, said Mark McCormick, director of the Kansas African American Museum.
“If they take it down, the everyday lives of African-Americans will be exactly the same,” McCormick said. “Our problems are much more complex than the symbolism of a flag. It makes me sad that we have never gotten to the point that we can get past these differences.
“So OK, if they take that flag down, what did we win? It is a hollow victory because we are focusing on a symptom rather than the actual disease.”
Of course problems of racism are much more complex than the symbolism of a flag and yes, if we could obliterate completely this odious symbol of racism, Black lives would not instantly be significantly different. Instantly this symbol would cease to be a celebration of a time better studied than celebrated but instantly that’s about as good as it gets.
But putting it away from public places is stripping it of the romanticism, stripping it of dignity, and is an admission, a statement, that the Civil War wasn’t about any noble cause but about white supremacy. I think that is huge. And I think that will have a huge impact on generations to come.
And speaking of Kansas, when I think of Kansas and the Civil War, Kansas and slavery, I think of John Brown. I know he neither was born or hanged there, but if I remember correctly, it’s where he staged his most prominent battles, right?
There’s a similar marker on old Highway 99 just south of the Oregon border in California, too. No park or confederate flag, though. And when you read about the Northern California folks who want to break off from the rest of the state and form a new state --with Southern Oregon --and call it the state of Jefferson, they are talking about naming a state after Jefferson Davis!
I read just this year that the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to pursue this ridiculous move. Never mind it’s not going to happen.
Climate change is drying up many lakes, human change can do it too.
Then, just as important is, how we fill them back up.
Cleansing is probably not the right way to describe what should happen but that is pretty much what should happen. Get rid of all symbols and references in the public square.