Discussion: Harkin On Keystone: Money Spent On Fossil Fuels Is Money Spent 'Digging The Graves Of Our Grandchildren'

Beat me to it. And a h/t for the article on it the other day.

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Amen brother…

It’s actually New Brunswick, not Nova Scotia, but as a Canadian, I would rather see the oil refined in Canada. The refined products can still be exported to the US by existing pipelines in the East or by ship, as well as sent anywhere in the world by sea.

But if the price goes below $70/bbl, any expansion of the Tar Sands (and probably any pipelines) will be DOA until prices rise back near $100.

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ā€œThe world needs grave diggers too.ā€ - Generic GOP Idiot

Isn’t it up to the State Department to make the call for the Keystone XL? What difference does the vote in the Senate make?

Gawd it’s going to be a miserable next 2 years with the lunatics running congress. Fucking depressing.

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IMO, the Keystone pipeline was always a great bargaining chip and I suspect the administration has known that all along.

As long as Obama bargains for actual passed legislation and not ā€œpromisesā€.

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No. He’s a longtime family friend. He’s got grandkids and shit and he’s kind of over the DC cesspool.

He would have curb stomped the Pig Lady.

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Jonathan Chait has a good piece on this idea. Mildly dispiriting but good.

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How fucking hard is it for Dimocraps to run a fucking ad with a wind turbine spinning gracefully through the sky transposed against the filthy digging and destruction of tar sand extraction? Cut to one. Cut to the other. Cut back to the turbine. Cut back to the filthy extraction. Fuck, throw in a baby deer and a little kid just for added effect.

That’s SO FUCKING EASY! It took me like 15 seconds to come up with that idea and totally own the debate.

15 motherfucking measly seconds.

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I’d do it too.

There’s already pipelines all over the place. Keystone XL really doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things. But if they want it so very bad, I’d make them pay dearly for it.

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At least I had the right end of the country!

I read a story about it the other day, but I couldn’t find the link to it, and my aging memory failed me yet again.

Oil prices are expected to drop further—probably below that $70 bbl marker----so that’s another reason not to build Keystone.

ā€œAnd I’m not going to be a part of it anymore. I’m through. That’s just how strongly I feel.ā€

Portrait of courage right there. Wait until after the election in which you are retiring. Too bad he didn’t feel this strongly about beating back against the oil companies prior to his retirement.

Job killing pipeline…loss of tanker trucking jobs, loss of rail tanker jobs.

Eminent domain whereby the U.S. government seizes private land from U.S. citizens & gives it to a corporation from a foreign government.

If the oil is for U.S. consumption, then why not put that in writing in the form of legislation?

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It didn’t start and doesn’t stop with Keystone, Senator Harkin. Most every GOP seat is yet another undertaker for the next generation. A corporate dominated agenda barreling us toward Plutocracy is the reaper.