Discussion: Grassley Appeals To Trump: Firing Mueller Would Be Presidential 'Suicide'

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It’s like when you were out drinking during your misspent youth and you made it clear to a friend who was further along than you that if he started a fight in the bar you were heading for he was on his own.

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Grassley added, perhaps in an attempt to communicate directly with the President, that Mueller “would appreciate being fired so he would have an excuse for getting out of [the probe],” which Grassley said “looks like a dead end,” in terms of evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia.

Huh??

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I am impressed, Grassley actual said something that is somewhat confrontational towards Trump. But we all know that Grassley will fold like a cheap suit if push comes to shove.

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Yeah, ‘a dead end’. Kinda like your senate career, Chuck.

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If you read it as a huge lie to a gullible moron it makes a lot more sense. :smile:

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“I have confidence in the Mueller, the President ought to have confidence in Mueller."

I think Trump has plenty of confidence that Mueller knows what he’s doing. Hence the panicky rage.

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Don’t they all…

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I wonder where Ryan and McConnell are hiding about now?

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What he’s not saying here is that there will be any consequences from the Republican-controlled Congress. He’s saying the consequences would be felt in November, not that his copartisans would impeach him now. Which is also to say, effectively, that he will face no consequences as long as the GOP controls Congress.

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“Grassley Appeals To Trump: Firing Mueller Would Be Presidential ‘Suicide’”

Sure, Chuck. But only if Republicans in Congress were to reverse evolution and grow actual, working spines.

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Just because it’s political suicide doesn’t mean he shouldn’t do it. I think I have some political rope here somewhere I could tie a political noose with if need be…

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Push, shove, presidential suicide; nice combo of words going on there.

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The chair of the Senate Committee that would be responsible for managing an impeachment case calls a certain potential action on the part of the President ‘suicide’. Doesn’t that sound like the Washington establishment (for all of its many many many failings) firing a shot across Mr Trump’s bow? Not that Mr Trump has the insight or simple capacity to listen to such warnings, unfortunately… That the President said anything after hearing about the search of Mr Cohen’s premises is astonishingly imprudent and risky. That he said what he said makes almost any action in the future to block further work by Mr Mueller outright obstruction of justice by providing a manifest mens rea. Truly, we have an uncontrolled sociopath in the most prominent position in this country, and one who cannot keep his mouth shut for any reason whatsoever. Strange times!

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I’m so tired of hearing this. They keep threatening him with this so it sounds like they will do their job. If not, it’s a win win for us - we will pick up more votes in November and we’re taking Congress back and we’ll do it ourselves.

If they won’t do their job we’ll do ti for them m - this country belongs to US. Not to them - they work for us.

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Cadet bone spurs can’t even get genders correct. It’s not a “witch hunt”, it’s a “warlock hunt”.

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Yes. And it’s not the first time. He’s been told over and over that firing Mueller is the Rubicon he can’t cross without consequences.

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I think this is a little bit eleven-dimensional-chess-y. I don’t think Grassley is really all that nuanced. If he were, I definitely do not think he would trust Donald Trump to pick up on that nuance.

“This would be presidential suicide” requires an awful lot of nuance to #wellactually interpret into “psst, we’ll let you do it”. I think the more logically parsimonious reading of “this would be presidential suicide” is “this would be presidential suicide”.

I know it’s hard, when we’re living a historical moment, to know when something is a big deal and/or when it is a Big Deal. This isn’t a Big Deal on the level of proposing legislation to shield the special prosecutor’s office from executive meddling, but I think it is a big deal in the sense that a high-ranking member of the President’s own party is saying “do not do this thing, you must not do this thing”. That’s something that is, if not unprecedented, certainly something that carries a weighty precedent (threatening a weighty president). It didn’t used to happen.

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Yer winking with the wrong eye again Grassley,… everyone can see you doing it…

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Out at the Cricket farm

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