I don’t suppose anyone that reads TPM is a fan of shutdowns. But I think this one needs to be done. Not to fight Trump’s never to be wall but the tactics he’s using to get it, the shutdown itself. Shutdowns have become too common. The folks on the teevee say they’re the result of partisan divide. Nope. They’re due to the natural reaction people have to being extorted. Resistance Trump’s trying force GOP’ers in the Senate to do his bidding when the Founding reason there is a Senate is to check him. So do it. It won’t last long and hopefully it will cause enough pain and backfire enough to scare folks away from the tactic in the future.
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It occurs to me that the next message that should go viral is this: President Coulter told her message boy that he couldn’t sign the funding bill. And Co-President Limbaugh agreed. (But mostly he needs to read that he has to do whatever Coulter tells him to do. Weak!
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The messaging for the Democrats should be clear here, I just hope they’ll take this opportunity. As always, the focus must be on branding the GOP, not getting into the weeds. Use this most recent example of chaos and misrule to mark the GOP indelibly. No more dusting them down once it is all over. Thus:
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Don’t mention the wall.
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Make this about the Republican party, not only its leader.
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Only say: It’s pure chaos and extremism. It always is. The Republican Party is simply unfit for power. Americans get it. The stock market gets it. Russia gets it. We have government by chaos and corruption. The Republican party has brought his great country to its knees, yet again. Democrats always fix their mess, but this time we can’t. They control everything. And everything is chaos and corruption.
Again and again. No Trump, no wall, just the Republican party. Then keep saying it even if the shutdown is averted. Brand those fuckers. Everything depends on it.
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Once again we are playing a game of chicken. It’s time that the Democrats take a firm stand. Let the government be partially shut down for months if needed … but on the wall just say no.
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If we’re going to have shutdowns, we need to Shut. Things. Down.
That means no TSA, no border guards, Nobody goes to work without a paycheck.
THAT would stop this constant shit, once nobody can fly for the holidays, they’d be on their Senators and Congressmen real fast to fix things.
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It will, nevertheless, be the thought of the entire Evil Demoncrat Party (all 60M+ of them) who wants to flood the nation with brownskinned cutthroats, druggies, and rapists who will violate your daughters and wives, steal your jobs and loot your bank accounts and turn the Good Old USA into a Socialist nightmare. It’s the last Chance for America, and Those People are destroying it by defying the Legitimate President.
At least, I’m sure that’s the way it will be played on Fox all today.
I wonder how the sane majority (That’s The Sane Majority) feel about it.
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You’re being to logical. Shutting down the government in an attempt to pass policy linked ( falsely ) to national security makes no sense at all. But Trump’s demands for a wall are not about that. They’re about him. National security, to him, is a subject to craft talking points and election jargon about. The wall, is him. He want’s a Trump wall to shine for eternity. An 8th wonder of the world with his name on it. People wailing at its base. It’s perfectly clear why Trump’s doing what he’s doing if you look at it like you should all things Trump. It’s about him.
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“Many senators already left town for the holidays.”
I keep hearing and seeing that. How many GOP Senators did that?
Enough that their leadership says the effort has no chance at all.
Careen tends to imply speed, frenzy, wild abandon, but we’ve been headed this way for literally months, with intermittent, typically Trumpovian, flip-flopping over the past few weeks.
A more accurate title would be something like:
Gov’t Waddles Toward Shutdown After Trump’s Wall Demand, Like A Fat Old Senile White Man In A MAGA Hat Stumbling Into A Tower of Mayonnaise In Glass Jars At Walmart While Paranoically Backing Away From An Immigrant Trying To Help Him Find The Frozen Foods Aisle
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I like that. Don’t negotiate with terrorists…
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"The Democrats are trying to belittle the concept of a Wall, calling it old fashioned. The fact is there is nothing else’s that will work, and that has been true for thousands of years. It’s like the wheel, there is nothing better. I know tech better than anyone, & technology…
Bet he is on of those that used to bring a copy of Computer Shopper to the weekly managers meeting and challenge the IT guy with “new tech” that we have to have.
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What I want to know, and I know a lot of folks want to know is if trump’s bodyguards (government employees) will get just a little bit of time-off during the shutdown layoff wave?
A used copy from 1987.
“Why do we have to spend all this money on technology? Why can’t we just use the DOS?”
ETA: Awkward grammar added for verisimilitude, as per erik_t below.
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My goodness.
One would think you are implying that not all “terrorists” wear ski masks, strap dynamite to their bodies, and shout Allāhu akbar just before detonating.
One might presume you conflate “terrorists” with soft-spoken gentlemen in bespoke suits. Who prowl the corridors of power. Looking for some underage victim to molest.
Like the Republican Congressional contingent.
But I am sure you didn’t mean that. Not about patriotic and selfless Public Servants like Paul and Mitch and Graham and Devin and…
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This is absolutely true. For rich people, this is a buying opportunity, just like the 2008 real estate crash was. just like Katrina was.Every economic crisis is, by design, a crisis only for the little people, and eventually results in another huge draft of money upwards into the top 1%. Banks are rescued while people are being expelled from their homes.
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Congress ought to give him the wall -on one condition. That he present a check from the Mexican Government reimbursing the US Treasury for the cost. After all, they should help Donnie keep his campaign promises.
You have been in that meeting, I can tell heh!
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I saw an ad for Perrier-Jouet champagne, which I hope means at least one pre-holiday indictment.
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