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The alleged shooter had apparent white supremacist leanings
Leanings? He was full on submerged in white supremacy.
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He brandished an axe while he spoke.
Ah, c’mon now, Terry, you shill. Isn’t it a little early for you to be CYA’ing in advance of next election?
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But not statues. I mean, Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis,
Heros all! If they are in a museum who will the children look up to??? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! Leave our statures AAAALLLOOOOONNNEEEEEEE!!!
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“Leave General Lee aloooone!!”
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Look, Terry. Just because Lee is known as the ‘Marble Man’ does not mean you’re committing murder when you tear down his statue. It’s been a century and a half since he lost.
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Fuck this guy.
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There’s only one term for governors in VA. If anything he wants a place in Hillary’s cabinet.
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“The alleged shooter had apparent white supremacist leanings”
McAuliffe isn’t the only one evading the truth.
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You can keep your confederate crap. Just move it from tax payer funded government buildings, parks and all other places all of the “we the people” (on the state and federal level) pay for.
If the rednecks want their hate banners and statues to genuflect to, let them move them to an appropriate place (the deep blue sea) and pay for them! NOT US!
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“”“statue was erected by the Ohio State Archeological and Historical society in 1931. On the pedestal it states: General George Armstrong Custer, born in New Rumley Harrison County Ohio December 5 1839 ** Killed in battle with the indians on the Little Big Horn * Montana June 25 1876.”"""
How can it be? A statue of a murdering bastard…in Ohio…isn’t that up in the Saintly North?
“”“The Yankees were “not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people,” Sherman explained; as a result, they needed to “make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war.””" So said William Tecumseh Sherman the famous Union Army General. And he did just that in his “march to the sea”.
Great guy and you can see him here, right in NY City:
http://www.centralparknyc.org/assets/images/2014/things-to-see-and-do/Sherman-750.jpg
I could go on. The Governor is making a point. So are his critics…a point many are sick of.
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Who is asking for Confederate statues to be removed? Is any one of note, any politician, any large political group, any community or government? I’ve seen this crop up in the past day and have yet to see anyone actually say statues need to be removed, I’ve only seen people responding to it…sounds manufactured to me.
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Well, now, I genuinely believe that confederate statutes don’t belong in government buildings. If the state has a history museum, move them either outside on the grounds or ask for donations to expand the building. The government can pay to remove, transport and set up the statutes. There you go…museums which is exactly where this piece of history belongs.
If you want to honor folks in government buildings, let’s try to keep it to folks who were not traitors.
Just saying…
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I can understand why those who have devoted their lives to telling themselves a story that their heritage is one worth celebrating will be sick of people pointing out that it isn’t. And I appreciate how they’d also revile Sherman for defending the nation against violent insurrection motivated primarily by the desire to preserve slavery.
Personally, I don’t care who celebrates what, but it’s informative to observe what they do celebrate. And I do care what gets celebrated on public ground. The Ten Commandments belong on church property, and these icons – put in place at a time we accepted the bullshit narrative that there was something to be prideful about them – could well be moved to private property where those who so choose can revel in their awesome grandeur.
The attitudes of society are changing, I think for the better but regardless they are changing, and it’s to be expected that many will jealously cling to their accustomed ways.
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You’d think that southerners would have the decency to appreciate the fact that Lincoln did not hold these traitors accountable for treason. Instead, they celebrate them.
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You can have my statue of the General Lee when you pull it out of my cold, dead hands.
HAZZARD FOREVER!
Are southerners ever not the victim? It’s clear where the tea party gets it from. No wonder they’re so strong down there.
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Easy there, Terry. Virginia, of all Southern states, should be the most eager to tone down the rhetoric on this topic a bit given its atrocious environmental record and inhuman business model. Specifically, after the over-growing of tobacco depleted the soil, Virginia slave-owners starting “breeding” slaves for sale to other slavery states AND its legislators fought tooth and nail in Congress to limit the import of slaves in order to enhance the competitiveness of their slave-breeding entrepreneurs.
Good point–thanks. I wonder if, in re/ positioning, he’s trying to show he can deliver VA? Would make sense in quest for Cabinet post.