Discussion: GOPer Would 'Hate' To See National Emergency Declaration: 'A Mistake'

Trump is starting to scare the crap out of republicans,

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the option was still “on the table,”

If only Chuck and Nancy could locate that table they could neutralize that threat!

Seriously, a good response to that particular negotiating tactic is to dare them to use it. An emergency declaration would be a power grab that would make it harder for the administration to accomplish anything legislatively, and the GOP agenda would suffer for it. Frankly, the “Wall” price-tag would be a small price to pay for dependable GOP defections in both houses.

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Wasn’t the middle ground the Republican bill that the President, the Senate, and the House already agreed upon last month…until “someone” reneged on it?

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Mind you…it’s still a “crisis”

Bacon (R-NE 2) is deadman walking, provided that the democrats don’t run another candidate in 2020 like this year (Eastman, caugh, caugh) who runs on “nationalizing health care” and abolishing ICE in a suburban district where one of the main industries is health care… Expect to see more folks like Bacon try to put distance between Trump and themselves as they see Trump get weaker.

But on the broader point, the lack of senators publicly calling out this as stupid is surprising. I am sure that setting a precedent that a future democratic president can just remake the government, and spend money contrary to congresses (aka the senate’s) wishes is NOT something they want to set. Ditto saying that a state will not get disaster money because the president does not like that state.

Hopefully (and probably) McConnell, and Co. are telling Trump that this will be article 4 in his impeachment if he does it, but if not, they will reap a whirlwind if Trump goes down this road. The public will not stand for it, and it will undermine forever their arguments about limited/smaller government.

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It’s amazing how sanity can prevail when the GOP congress critters can feel a vise tightening on their gonads…

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But we all know perfectly well that if/when Unindicted Co-Conspirator does do this, this guy and all of the other waverers will be 150% on board with it.

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If Trump does go down that road, it’s a win/win for Democrats. If Trump survives the legal and political challenges, he gets his wall but the next Democratic president gets to declare Universal Health Care by national emergency fiat and also gets to dismantle Trump’s wall as that particular emergency will have been resolved. If Trump loses his national emergency gambit (more likely), he gets slapped down and probably impeached.

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liked x millions - agree with all of it

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As LBJ observed, hearts and minds tend to follow imperiled gonads.

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MF>>>MF>>>MF!!! This is kinda OT…but it’s not posted on TPM yet.

donnie just tweeted that he has ordered FEMA to stop sending money to CA fire victims. BECAUSE…wait for it…the State of California is not doing proper Forest Management. “It is a disgraceful situation in lives & Money.”

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I agree, with the added bonus that it will give Democrats license to go full on obstruction, and not get blamed by those in the middle who want to “get along”. The argument that you ought to compromise does not have any traction when the other guy is acting like a fascist dictator who is seizing power.

Plus it has the additional advantage of taring and feathering Republicans. It is their guy who they are not only not checking, but aiding and abetting as he overrides the popular will.

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This guy sound serious, and he’s got the lapel pins to prove it!

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Because we’re not as smart as the Finns? Understandable.

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Let’s invite them to immigrate here! We’ve got Roomba for THEM.

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And the thesaurus with all the “I feel your pain” synonyms.

We’ve got to come together and find a middle ground and do our job in Congress. . . I think that would be a mistake, it would be wrong

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Trump is the mistake that keeps on mistaking.

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:laughing:

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Hey, just as good: we have a national health and safety crisis because of GUNS, so the next national emergency is taking care of that. There are tens of thousands killed due to guns and many more injured. If that’s not an emergency, i don’t know what is.

Oooooh, betcha McTurtle can see this coming and won’t want to deal with it.

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