“We’ve got, for instance, two sisters, and these two sisters want to get married. They love each other. They are committed to each other. They want to spend the rest of their life together,”
Is she referring to an actual couple that exists in reality, or is she just pulling a hypothetical out of her ass?
In the nearest Evangelical Christianist church that has coloring books of Adam and Eve riding dinosaurs on its shelves.
Thanks to extreme gerrymandering overseen by Wisconsin Republicans, our state’s third Congressional district will be a safe Democratic seat for the next several years. No amount of gay bashing or fear mongering is going to change that.
“We’ve got, for instance, two cantaloupes, and these two melons want to get married. They love each other. They are committed to each other. They want to spend the rest of their cantaloupey life together.”
This is as worrisome as her idiot scenario.
What’s especially awesome is that she is apparently a “civil rights” attorney:
“Mueller is a civil rights attorney from Chippewa Falls, where she resides with her family. In addition to civil rights work, Mueller has been an employment law attorney in her own private practice and has worked with discrimination and harassment claims.”
The rest of her resume is typical teabagger argle-bargle:
http://www.wrjc.com/news/local-news/candidate-series-part-six-karen-mueller/
Okay, yes, if you get rid of incest laws, then sisters can marry each other and brothers can marry each other and brothers can marry their sisters, etc.
This has nothing to do with allowing gay marriages or not. Brothers and sisters can marry each other in the absence of the incest laws without requiring legal gay marriage.
Incest laws are not the same as anti-homosexuality laws against marriage. Why is that so hard to understand?
How about this. You allow people to drink alcohol and suddenly people will be killing each other. Why? Because you can get rid of the laws against murder just as easily as you can get rid of the Prohibition amendment.
People tend to imagine all sorts of slippery slopes which lead to their preconceived notions of where they want things to end up. Anything someone disagrees with but can’t come up with a socially-acceptable argument against the first reflex is “well, that’s just a first step towards this hell-world I can imagine”. Rarely is a slippery-slope argument valid, so such arguments always deserve strict and unflinching scrutiny.
So just how, Ms Mueller, will allowing two people who love each other marry despite the specific nature of their genitals lead to siblings marrying each other? Give us the step-by-step details of the decline down this slippery slope. I suspect you will find that the logic for your very first step is strained beyond credulity.
She’s a haterosexual…
Like most Chri$harians…
This woman obviously does not have a sister. I can’t think of any two sisters who, having grown up together, would be remotely interested in marrying one another. I love my sister dearly, but I could never be married to her, and I know she could never stand being married to me.
PeterPrinciple of TeaSociety…
Xian smuggery writ large.
Marriage equality doesn’t invalidate laws prohibiting siblings from marrying.
This sorry excuse for a candidate is a piss-poor lawyer if she can’t figure that out.
I wonder if that is just her own phrasing, because I have a hard time imagining whose civil rights she’s defended against discrimination and harassment.
Republicans pose such questions as though the answers are both obvious and dangerous, when they’re really not.
If two sisters are of the age of consent and want to get married, let them. I really don’t care, nor do I see any harm in allowing them to do so.
Of course, that’s a conservative viewpoint. The Republicans, not being actual conservatives, see this as a place where the Big Nanny State Government must be involved.
All she’s defending is her own bigoted stupidity.
A ban on same-sex marriage isn’t a ban that stops gay people from getting married, Mueller said.
“That’s not true. They can get married,” Mueller said. “They just can’t get married to each other.”
This is nearly the exact argument that segregationists used 50 years ago against interracial marriage. They would argue that it wasn’t discriminatory that blacks and whites could not marry because it was equally true that just as no black person could marry a white person, no white person could marry a black person. Black people can marry any person they choose, as long as that person is black. White people can marry any person they choose, as long as the person isn’t black. See, that’s treating everyone the same!
The thing that gets me about these folks is that they appear to really think that this is a good solid argument instead of just being cheeky. It is even more surprising is that they expect the rest of us to go along with them.
One of my favorite phrases from law school days: A Parade of Horribles. “If you allow same-sex marriage, next thing you know, people will be having sex with donkeys, burning flags, and sauteeing babies.”
Properly prepared, sauteed baby is a real treat.
According to SafeHorizon.org:
"Number of reports of child abuse every year in the United States: 2.9 million.
Of child abuse cases in 2012, in over 80% of the cases the parent was the perpetrator."
That means approximately 2.3 million cases of child abuse per year in the U.S. perpetrated by parents.
Since the number of gay couples with children is so tiny as to be statistically irrelevant, that means that over 6,300 American children are abused in some way EVERY DAY by one or both of their heterosexually-married parents.
If Karen Mueller really gave a flying fuck about the dangers to children from a particular kind of marriage—and the supposed impact on children is at the core of wingnut opposition to gay marriage—she’d be complaining about heterosexual marriage, not gay marriage.
You hit the nail on the head - she is an attorney!?! Where is her reasoning power?!?
That’s not a smell I particularly care to encounter.
Did Adam and Eve’s children get married? Jus’ wonderin’.
I didn’t know that WI has a law that allows brothers and sister to marry. Oh they don’t?
Oh never mind, this is a GOP person who is just blabbing and making themselves look really stupid.