Discussion: GOPer Tillis's Chief Strategist: Our Internal Polls Never Showed Us Ahead Of Hagan

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Well, doesn’t this sound like they are preparing to explain a loss to their supporters?

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Flop sweat.

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Hagan was listed as a “vulnerable Democrat” too.

I’m proud to have voted against this fuckstick today.

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We thank you for your vote!

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Well, well, well, and meanwhile the Cons are already acting like they already control the Senate. I so hope that they are sorely mistaken come election night.

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Souls to the polls, baby!

“It was always a long shot, and while the last poll suggested we had pulled even, it was always going to be an uphill battle.”*

*Next internal memo from the Tillis campaign.

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You.Are.Awesome.

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It would be SO sweet to brand their arrogance as premature and keep the Senate for the Dems.

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While I think the GOP controlling the Senate is a horrific possibility, I also am pretty sanguine about what damage it can do while in control of both chambers.

The 2016 map for Senate Republicans is as dire as this year’s map was for Dems, and Senators in purple states or trending purple states just won’t want their finger prints over anything remotely controversial.

At least I hope.

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Next up:
VOTER FRAUD!
EBOLAGAHNZI !

This is what I keep hoping. Just like here in Missouri, we are controlled by a Republican Senate and House, but have at least a Dem Governor. Unlike here in Missouri, even if they take the Senate by a seat or two, they do not have the votes needed to override a Presidential veto. No nothing will get done, but I am thinking like you are.

We know how they love to go on that ego trip and think if they win by one or two seats, that it is a nationwide mandate to act even worse, so by 2016, they are going to get a royal spanking. It may be rough for a couple of years, but maybe the country needs to see what a world of total Republican control would be like.

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It will be rough for approximately 8 months. From January to August 2015. Then, when the usual suspects show up as GOP presidential candidates, and the GOPers elected in 2010 survey the landscape, they will all discover that oh: it ain’t 2010 anymore, and all those dreams of domination will dwindle.

Also? I expect that the Obama Administration is prepared to deliver a giant FU to the GOP in the next two years.

But then again? I am an optimist.

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Statement A

most public polling which has generally (with some exceptions) shown Hagan leading the Republican state house speaker by a few points.

Statement B

The TPM Polltracker average finds Tillis with a 0.3 point lead over Hagan.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Given that filibuster reform was only for judicial nominees, even shitty bills will not get to the President’s desk should the GOP manage to get to 51 seats in the Senate.

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Whatever you heard me say, I didn’t say. OK?

Maybe, but to me it sounds like he was just trying to make the case that the current polling tie is good news for his side, because they’ve gained ground from where they were previously (2 or 3 point behind). And invoking the idea of “momentum” and hoping that helps bring some undecideds their way.

Not sure I see much of a contradiction there. Statement A seems to refer to what the polls were showing starting this spring and up until a couple of weeks ago, when Tillis seems to have started gaining some ground. Statement B says what the current TPM Polltracker average is. In other words past versus present.

At any rate, with still about 10% undecideds, it could easily go either way even if one candidate was currently a few points ahead of the other. What worries me more than the tie is the momentum…at the moment Tillis seems to have some.

Look at Kansas; there’s your petri dish.