One thing I haven’t seen mentioned anywhere is the whole tax credit thing.
Under the ACA, the insurance companies are paid the subsidies directly.
With tax credits, the poor have to pay the full price of their insurance and wait for a tax credit at the end of the year.
How many poor people, struggling to afford insurance, have $4,000 or whatever to loan the federal government for a year? How many will have to go without for lack of an up-front subsidy?
Exactly.
What do parents do if their child comes down with leukemia?
That’s an out of pocket cost far greater than $4000, and far greater than any tax deduction would cover for any but the wealthy.
The lengths these vipers will go, just to deny Obama a legacy; and with no concern about who gets hurt.
I will repeat: this is the time for a democrat to propose single payer. Proclaim it from the rooftops. I realize there’s a lot going on … but if they could get that message out, it would resonate tremendously.
Exactly. How do they think this would work for most people? Are there any healthcare systems in the entire world where this is actually a functional system? I fail to see how realistic a process this is going to be for most average people. But that’s Republicans for you: Breaking things in the name of “fixing” them.
That $33B/year “deficit reduction” they’re so happy about is going to disappear pretty quick if they start tinkering with the tax credits.
Cue Spicer, “The CBO doesn’t do people OR dollars very well. PERIOD.”
As I understand it (very limited) the "tax credit) starts at the beginning of the year is spread out (monthly), and like the subsidies goes straight to the insurance company - it is not delayed by a year. Technically it seems like a subsidy but republicans don’t like that word (unless it is tied to democrats), but at a smaller level than the current ones, and in a way that does not take into account of the cost of insurance in different regions, or the income level of the recipient - just age is a factor into the size.
“There are multiple different points that are bought up and I guess the difficulty is, keeping everybody in the basket as they attempt to address the issues that are brought up,” Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) said after Tuesday’s lunch.
The basket? Basket of what?
I can’t even begin to guess.
You know how we liberals half-joke about how “the Republicans’ constituency is dying off”?
This looks a helluva lot like the Republicans have just jettisoned one of their core groups of voters in order to curry favor with young people.
So if I understand this correctly, they’re “reworking” the numbers so that the tax credit is still grossly inadequate, but at least it can be claimed by more middle-income and upper-middle income voters?
Oh darn it …
The GOP can’t get a ’ wham bam ’ screw ya done …
They’ll have to figure out how to screw us over a longer period —
Only thing different is they won’t get their fix for our blood… as fast –
Thank you for the clarification.
That’s $33 Billion without the macro economic score figured in yet. When that is done there very well could be not even enough savings to make it legal to use reconciliation in order to pass this crap bill.
Republicans just don’t give a shit about anything except making their super rich (robber barons) constittuents richer and richer. America is a dying nation - the rich aristocracy is all that matters to Republicans.
Do us, the people, a favor. Make dying with dignity a free healthcare benefit to those of us who have worked hard our whole life and now our broken bodies can no longer do the heavy lifting. We can’t afford the deductibles of these insurance plans…so please make it easy for us to say adios and to die with ease and dignity Vs living in shame under Trump and Republican lies!
People will take the easy death if given a choice Vs Republican lies and exploitation. Let us die instead of paying for Trump’s lies with our last pennies!