Discussion: GOP Race Shifts California's Political Fault Lines

What b.s. that Cruz is some “outsider”, as claimed by Schroeder! Geez, he’s a Senator from TX. What could possibly be more Establishment than being employed by that Establishment? The GOP political director is reading the Cruz propaganda, and not listening to American people, or even just looking at the real Cruz. Yes Cruz markets himself as an outsider, for obvious political agendas. So does Schroeder and many of the GOP pundits. But, anyone informed knows that is b.s.

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Moderate or radical, the GOP will always be stuck in STUPID.

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Just the fact that Trump is here in California is encouraging mass voter registration among latinos. If Trump is nominated, which looks likely, Hillary wins in a landslide in California. For the Republicans, one of my Republican friends just puts it, “We’re screwed.” Used to be the choice of the lesser of two evils, this year is the less crazy one.

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All 3 repub choices are unacceptably crazy in my view. it’s just that Kasich masks it best and Trump doesn’t.

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Matt Rexroad, a GOP consultant

“If you’re a Republican in California, you have a Democratic president you don’t like, Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic nominee, you have a Democratic governor,”

If it weren’t for the money you made in the stock market, you’d be crying all the time.

“If you’re one of these Republicans and you think everything is going wrong, what’s the best way to throw a wrench in everything? Donald Trump.”

If you’re one of these Republicans, where do you plan to emigrate after trying to destroy “everything”?

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GOP in California has a very difficult choice to make among the three monkeys they have running, huh?
http://twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Three-Wise-Monkeys-in-the-Internet-Age.jpg

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The article seems to be saying that supporting Trump is how Republicans give the president, the governor and all Democrats the middle finger. That’s MORE than fine with me because, by doing so, they are also giving it to every other Republican on ballots all across America!

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I fully expect to see a rerun of the 1964 GOP primary when Goldwater beat Rockefeller. Sure is funny to see Ted Cruz in the Rockefeller role! :smiling_imp:

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…and the winner faces a former Goldwater Girl. For me, the most ironic part is that Goldwater himself hated what became of the party. He would detest Cruz and his supporters with every fiber of his being.
In 1989, Goldwater said:
“The Republican party has been taken over by a ‘bunch of kooks.’”
Some years later he said:
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of G-d, so they can’t and won’t compromise. I know, I’ve tried to deal with them.”

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This comment had been meant to be reply to josephebacon’s comment. Sorry I messed up (and below as well.)

There hasn’t been a repub elected to state office in California for decades and the turn away from the party began with R Governor Pete Wilson. Currently every Constitutionally elected official is a Democrat, Governor, Lt. Gov. AG, SOS and both Senators, and state legislature is held by Democrats. From Wiki below about Wilson.

But as for trump in particular his unfavorable rating in the state is 74% and Cruz is 64%. In the SF Bay Area where I live and where the protest against trump was the other day, the unfavorable is 86%.

As Governor, Wilson was closely associated with California Proposition 187, a 1994 ballot initiative to establish a state-run citizenship screening system and prohibit illegal immigrants from using health care, public education, and other social services in California. Voters passed the proposed law as a referendum in November 1994; it was the first time that a state had passed legislation related to immigration, customarily an issue for federal policies and programs. The law was challenged in a legal suit and found unconstitutional by a federal court in 1998 and never went into effect.

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Pete Wilson, a centrist governor?

Let me fix that for you. You have all the letters you need:

Pete Wilson, racist.

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Shifted the fault lines, allright…directly under the feet of the GOP.

How much bluer can California get?

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Spats at the state GOP conference does not make Cali a competitive state in the general election.

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The best thing to ever happen to CA financially is when the voters kicked the GOP to the curb and gave the Dems supermajorities. A gaping deficit turned into a surplus, and the financial stewardship of the state is vastly improved.

This is what happens when you elect people who care about government and not just cutting taxes on rich people.

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Same thing in up here in Oregon. No Republicans statewide since Merkley ousted Gordon Smith in 2006. Last Republican governor was 30 years ago, last Secretary of State (#2 position in state government) was 32 years ago, last AG was 25 years ago, 4 out of 5 House members are Democrats.

Beginning in the early 1990s the Oregon Republican Party, formerly home to people like Tom McCall and Norma Paulus, was taken over by the Right. They went after LGBT rights with a vengeance, they nominated religious nuts and outright grifters. Two of them went to jail, but the party is still nominating nut cases like the rogue scientist who wants your urine, a couple of perennial candidates who have run unsuccessfully for every office in the state, and about a dozen people no one has ever heard of who have no governmental experience.

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I always enjoy looking at a political map (such as those Maddow sometimes displays) that show the entire left coast as long line of blue.

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Being a California Republican is great, if you happen to live in Bakersfield, but even that is changing. Their only hope is the younger generation of less-strident, and more moderate GOoPers. Hidebound has-beens like Tom McClintock, Dana Rorabacher, and Jim Brulte are headed for the dust bin. Simply pointing out scapegoats is no solution to the State’s many challenges. Republicans cannot even raise a viable candidate for the Senate seat to be vacated by Barbara Boxer. Meg Whitman and Neel Kashkari were jokes as gubernatorial candidates. Not to forget Arnold Schwarzenegger, who ran on a cult-of-personality platform, much like Trump, but aside from his commendable, progressive social and environmental record, proved to be a disappointment as governor. To add insult to injury, Democrat Jerry Brown has been an extremely competent, effective, and visionary chief executive, who has withstood GOP criticism that has been more petty and embittered than substantive, and in the process, has deprived Republicans of a favorite target.

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