Discussion: GOP Pollster: Republicans Don't Actually Want To Repeal Obamacare

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Given that this is already happening, this isn’t so much a “prediction” as a statement of fact.

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After the primaries, expect a shift in Republican candidates’ rhetoric against Obamacare

Yes, they will start taking credit for it in states that run their own exchanges. For example, in Kentucky, the state exchange is much more popular than “Obamacare”, even though they are same thing. But voters don’t get that, and the GOP will cynically take advantage of it.

They have used this page from their playbook on Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid. They oppose the policy, but that doesn’t prevent them from hammering their Democratic opponents about bogus Medicaid cuts in Obamacare.

Basically, they are shameless, and will do, or say, anything to win.

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Of course, this is a huge opportunity for democrats to run split-screen ads, if only they would take it.

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I’ve been saying this for a while. By November they’ll be taking full credit for it.

Okay, that’s a slight exaggeration.

From “Repeal and replace!”, to “We thought of it first!”

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thank you captain obvious

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“GOP Pollster Predicts Republicans Will Shift Their Tone On Obamacare”

Great Moments in GOP Hypocrisy:

  • Heritage Foundation conceives individual mandate, Newt Gingrich champions it nationally, Mitt Romney implements it in Massachusetts

  • Barack Obama and Democratic Congress elected on platform of universal healthcare, Republicans promptly demonize “Obamacare”

  • Policyholders not screwed by preexisting-condition dodge, homes not lost to medical bankruptcies, millions of new policy holders get health care, growth of medical spending slows

  • Republicans claim ACA as their own

Full circle.

(Nobody saw that coming….)

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Apparently Scott Brown of MA NH hasn’t got the memo yet.

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The great “Etch-A-Sketch” moment, Sure why not, worked so well for romney.

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I have been saying from the gitgo that as soon as the ACA becomes successful they will start calling it Republicancare and accuse the POTUS of stealing their idea as it was a model from the Heritage Foundation Plan and Romneycare. So you are not alone.

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“…expect a shift in Republican candidates’ rhetoric against Obamacare…”

Let’s keep our fingers crossed and hope whoever is mysteriously pulling the levers of conservative power goes through with it. Then we’ll know that Republicans are only 4 years behind the rest of the world.

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Why does Speaker Boehner look so orange, distraught and disoriented in the in the picture? I am beginning to think that it is either substance abuse or a symptom of a serious underlying psychiatric disorder.

Gee Whiz!!!

And how much did that poll cost, Captain Obvious?

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Has anybody else noticed that nothing that comes out of the GOP or its various propaganda outlets and darlings is ever NEW, or actually usable information? Original thought seems to be discouraged over there; which puts them right in the sand box with religious extremists.

“Postdiction” describes events that are currently happening or have already happened, but with the future tense (or present tense for older events.

Much biblical prophecy is demonstrably post-dictive, though too many people for too long have conflated prophecy (“speaking for god”) with prediction (“speaking before [an event]”). I doubt people at the time of the prophets made this anachronistic mistake. Prophets interpreted god’s will/message through past events and used a dissociative verb tense to indicate speaking in a prophetic mode. Audiences understood this feature of their grammar.

Two millennia removed from its prophetic context, the Bible’s verbs are correctly rendered by tense, but our grammar doesn’t distinguish a different intent between “simple” future and “prophetic” future. And since our grammar doesn’t distinguish a difference, our biblical understanding of doesn’t distinguish a difference.

If the Bible were not the longtime prime text of our culture and shaper of the worldview we have of ourselves as “christian”, “western”, “civilized”, and “modern” (in the products of our society and our impact on “the others”) - whether we are actually “christian” believers/practicers or not - ; and how we perceive “alien-others” to our “cwcm” selves, and who we perceive these “alien-others” to be, this anachronistic blind spot would matter less than appreciating how Shakespeare used the different words for singular/plural “you” available to him, but not to us.

But since the Bible is what it is, understanding postdiction does matter.

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…predicted the Republican shift because its approval numbers have improved in recent months.

Real profiles in courage, those Republicans are…

I am not buying this guy’s argument - why spend million and millions of taxpayer as well as donor dollars and hold 50-plus votes to repeal and then wholeheartedly embrace the ACA after the primaries ?
I do understand the level of derangement of the house repubs but I m just not buying this argument that they will return to being sane after 5 years of frenzy against Obama Care

It was creepy how the new head of HHS just cruised through. That must be their way out … this new person with the GOP’s wise and generous guidance totally revamped Obamacare and made it Republicare!! The GOP Governors better get on board with Medicaid or it will spoil the ambiance. Just show someone a deck of playing cards … take out 2 cards fan them out and say this is how many times the GOP voted against children getting health care.

I am so tired - when I read the headlines I thought it said GOP slit their throats on Obamacare

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