Yeah, but she’s running against the Democratic candidates AND the entire GOP AND the media. And they wonder why her favs are increasing!
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Oh, her favorables are increasing?
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I also find it amazing that they thought by pinning the agreement passing on the Democrats as if it’s some albatross to be hung around their necks.
When they’re proven wrong, I somehow doubt that any of them will admit it.
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This is fun, kind of like making Rush Limbaugh put on a dress,and kiss a black man. LOL!
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'Cause everybody knows that, especially the AP. For the AP any Obama accomplishment is unlikely. Looking back, they can’t remember any.
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Hey TrueGrits. I am so glad to see you back. Saw you a few times over the last months. I may just vote for Bernie in the primary because here in California, we can’t do much harm. I agree she’s gawd awful and I had been warming up to her until I saw her speech at the Brookings Institute yesterday. She was talking about the Iran deal and sounded like a neocon war monger. That bothered me a lot. Whether it was her trying to sound tough - maybe, but she has a hawkish record.
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Since you replied to True Grits as “She’s just getting started.” My reply to that comment was a jest from your reply to True Grits. As in, “She is a terrible (actually god-awful) candidate/campaigner.”
Okay, maybe it lost a little in translation. 
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I will support her if it comes to it, but she has a track record of campaigning missteps that leave me less than confident in the outcome of the race, even against yahoos like … well, all of the Republican candidates.
Please don’t shoot the messenger 
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But she didn’t sound any more hawkish than Obama on this issue.
He has said we’ll keep the military option on the table just in case.
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They don’t even count in my book
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Funny how the Repubs never “owned” Iraq, in their minds, since “everyone had the same faulty intelligence.”
Get bent, Lindsay.
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Actually, I thought she did. Of course we keep military option on the table, I understand that. Did you by any chance see her speech. If you get a chance, watch it and then tell me if I am over-reacting, I watched it as it was happening and saw it exactly as described below. Steve Clemmons was later that night on Lawrence O’Donnell and he said the same thing
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They must have thought the Dems would just wither away in the face of such intimidation tactics.
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No , just a clip from it. If your link is to the entire piece I’ll watch it.
Thanks.
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Yeah, I saw that too and was a bit concerned. I interpreted it as her trying to sound tough in this “man’s world” of politics. If she is the nominee of the Democratic party, she has to know that we are not the party of hawks. If she has learned anything as Secretary of State in the Obama administration, the lesson should be diplomacy first, diplomacy second, war last.
I can’t vote for Bernie until he actually utters the words that he would be proud to serve as a Democrat – not an Independent. Some of his interviews trouble me because it appears he is throwing dirt on the GOPers and the Democrats.
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an improbable win by Obama in the face of unanimous opposition from Republicans
The Obama presidency summed up in one perfect, succinct sentence.
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It highlights the speech but here is the link to watch it uncut on c-span
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That’s no doubt true, but it’s a mistake, I think. She did the same thing in voting for the Iraq War, for which I will never forgive her (Insert boiler-plate language here about how of course I will vote for her vs. any Republican).
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“”“Despite poll numbers showing significant public concern about the agreement”""
And are those concerns are the result of careful scrutiny the deals details or media hysteria? I’ve been in 2 debates over this deal and NO ONE knows shit about it. No matter what their political leanings are they don’t know shit. They don’t know who participated in it and are astounded that both Russia and China were involved. Hell they don’t know what the “5 plus 1” is. They don’t know the UN and our European allies are over the sanctions thing and want to move on. They don’t know the USA needs the UN and those allies to lay down effective sanctions and those folks are not inclined to go that route. They are taken aback when I asked why they want to go back to the scenario that led to all the concern. Under sanctions we got nothing but “imminent breakout” talk they agree but are flummoxed when I ask why do you want to go back to that.
People don’t know shit ( other than the GOP crap the MSM spews ) about this deal. When they do their opinion changes quite a bit.
But if you find yourself in a dispute with a GOP’er on Iran try this: If you are a hardliner on Iran, want to Nuke it or strangle it with sanctions, you should be FOR this deal and hope Iran violates or cheats. That’s the ticket that get’s the whole world on the hawks side.
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I feel like in the face of unanimous opposition will be the name of his after-Presidency memoir.
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