Discussion: GOP Leadership Gets Trump Assist In Selling Their O'Care Plan To Hardliners

I don’t agree with the premise of this article. Health savings accounts and tax credits have been uniformly booed at all Townhall meetings.

I didn’t see any meaningful guidance to Republicans and a very long contradictory wish list. And I think he knows it too.

The man’s hypocrisy simply has no limits. Earlier in the day he tells a Jewish state Attorney general that the attacks on JCC’s and Jewish cemeteries could be a "false flag attack " and he comes before Congress and decries anti-Semitism.

An empty suit.

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Health savings accounts have been booed because they deserve to be. Health savings are only good for people with enough money to make a tax free savings possible. And even with that, boy, if you have cancer or something else equally expensive, you are pretty much on your own.

These ideas are just a cruel joke.

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It wont be the plan forced on them by government. It will be the plan forced on them by insurers. I’d chose government.

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“We should help Americans purchase their own coverage, through the use of tax credits and expanded Health Savings Accounts –- but it must be the plan they want, not the plan forced on them by the Government,” Trump said, according to his prepared remarks.

Doesn’t matter if they can afford the plan they want, as long as it’s not provided by forced on them by the government

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I agree. And I think the booing and hissing has a great deal more to do with where we end up than any comments by Trump. I still can’t believe that when I write the word " Trump" that is a reference to the President of the United States.

The Indivisible movement has accomplished more in five weeks to move the needle on healthcare than any politician could or would.

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Okay ryan, your’e move
Lots of luck to you.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Perhaps but Trump has also previously indicated that he wasn’t all that pleased with the plan that Ryan and Co. were preparing. With this speech, he basically signed off on everything that Ryan was proposing. I think the thrust of the article was accurate; he was giving Ryan a green light.

The fact that the Ryan plan doesn’t even come close to meeting Ryan’s promises, let alone Trump’s much more extravagant promises, is irrelevant. The indications are that the congressional Republican leadership is going to try to ram this one through and dare their more vulnerable members to try to block it. If Trump is on board and tweeting his deplorables to support it, the chance of it passing increases.

President Tire Fire brags about his victory, insults immigrants, promises to destroy health care

Did you hear the riotous applause when he mention repealing Obamacare only to have it die in the second part of the sentence with the phrase"and replace"?

That what poker players call “the tell”

There will be no replacement of Obamacare. and when they repeal it they drift, en masse, onto a frozen political lake

How thick the ice is will be the question

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Donald Trump does not understand the legislative process. It is strange for this great negotiator not to understand the importance of controlling the pen when major legislation ( like major contracts) is concerned.

So he has already made one big mistake which is, strangely, the same one that Obama made at the start of the process of legislating the ACA. He did not send up an administration bill. Like Obama, he laid out his policy goals but let the Congress do the drafting.

I have heard about McConnell’s “Dare” strategy for an ACA replacement. Like Obama again, remarkably, McConnell now proposes to pre-negotiate a deal, trying to anticipate everybody’s bottom-line.

This compounds Trump’s mistake in not sending McConnell a bill in the first place. This is work that should’ve been done before Trump’s first day in the White House. And when you do this pre-negotiation thing , by definition you are giving up leverage without getting anything in return.

Obama learned that. I thought McConnell was smarter than that. I don’t think that McConnell and Ryan are going to be able to ram anything through the Congress simply because popular support for replacement of the ACA is steadily waning , while the opposition from Indivisible groups has been highly effective.

A steadily growing number of state governors , including Republicans like Rick Snyder and John Kasich, are fighting to keep the Medicaid expansion. And as a result of the grassroots activism, many people who are on expanded Medicaid are finding out for the first time that expanded Medicaid is an ACA program.

The last reason why I think this effort is heading for the rocks is because, unbeknownst to most of the voters, the House Republicans are planning to pay for this replacement with a payroll tax on health insurance premiums for employer-provided insurance.

The head of the Freedom Caucus took one look at that this week and wondered to the papers why a new Republican president would want to sign a tax increase on the middle class as the first major legislation that he signs.

I don’t think the Republicans are even close to any kind of consensus.

We’ll see.

“I’d like to thank my cadavers for being such good sports tonight.”

Allowing insurance sales across state lines is “less controversial”? I don’t want Mississippi’s version of health care. This is a MAJOR change and a disaster waiting to happen.

Oh ye of little faith! The Rescue Mission goes on as planned … just not sure they can find their heads up their asses in order to rescue them.

Media is so bad…
Trump said KY Gov Matt Bevin found a wrecked healthcare system. No Bevin destroyed Kynect, the highly successful KY health insurance pool set-up by Gov. Beshear. This was the reason the cable tagged “72 year-old man”, or Gov. Beshear, gave the Dem rebuttal.
Sad how smug, East coast-fixated TV media can’t connect two dots without assistance…