Discussion: GOP Elder Statesman, On A Trump Presidency: 'God Help Us'

Not on board with HWWNBN is one thing, but why he have to signal his mental deterioration with this:

“But he added that the Obama administration should have focused more on working with Congress.”

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You know, it is a bad bird, which shit in its own nest… He can’t go full Hillary, that would be unseemly…

Even with this reluctant confession comes a false equivalency–it is not “the political system” that has fallen off the rails, George. It is just your party, just the GOP.

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I was with him until his comment about Obama doing more to work with Congress. There was nothing he could do, they were acting like children, fingers in ears, stomping their feet, holding their breath, turning blue rather than deal with the Black Man in the White House

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All the while happy to take that gubbermint paycheck, health insurance, and gubbermint paid staff. All the while telling their rubes, er constituents that gubberming bad very, very bad.

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Appears to be a generational divide in the Republican Party, whereas the older Republicans who worked under Reagan, Nixon, or the first Bush are, generally, distressed and shocked by Trump.

Contrasted to the younger members who only care about reelection and staying sufficiently pure for their base.

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Much like Robert McNamara, many of these elder folks fess up to some truths just before they meet their maker.

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But he added that the Obama administration should have focused more on working with Congress.

That’s very white of you, George.

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First off, allow me to point out that scarcely anyone in today’s GOP gives a rat’s patooty what George Schultz thinks. He lives in San Francisco with his very liberal wife, Charlotte Malliard – and has for many years.

But he added that the Obama administration should have focused more on working with Congress. (George Schultz)

Seriously, Mr. Schultz? Seriously? What the fuck did you expect President Obama to do once he realized his repeated meet-you-in-the-middle entreaties didn’t work – invite the GOP Congress to a White House dinner, dress up like the man on the Cream of Wheat cereal box and serve the racist asshats? Shut up!

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As Trump continues to be unwilling to change his campaign style, more prominent Republicans have openly said they cannot support the presidential nominee. A few have even said they plan on voting for Hillary Clinton.

It’s not so much Trump’s reprehensible style that’s the problem here. It is that trump is utterly unqualified for the job.
No experience
No detailed knowledge of GOP policy
Can’t work with GOP members
Pompous
arrogant to the extreme
Very little knowledge of how state craft is done
No knowledge of treaties the US is part of.
And the list goes on.
I haven’t even got to his stupid comments.
I am serious here. Allow me to post the link so all can read them. There’s also a video clip of them I believe.

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Exactly. But not only that, the idea that he hasn’t tried to work with Congress and the GOP is a demonstrable myth! He has, time and again they stabbed him in the back. And a lot of Democrats are angry at him for being so naive. There is no foreseeable time in which we’ll again see Democrats with the House, 60-40 in the Senate an d the Presidency. If he had decided not to work with the GOP on healthcare, maybe we’d have a public option or medicare for all rather than the pile of shit that is the Affordable Care Act.

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In my opinion, this is one of the more important anti-DT comments made this election cycle. George Schultz is one of the “wise men” of the Republican Party whose thoughts are important.

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Especially annoying when the far left has accused Obama of trying to compromise and work too much with republicans.

Sheesh.

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This is simply not true and it’s a lie that desperately needs to die. The president struggled to hold together his own caucus. Yes, he approached Republicans and tried mightily to get them on board so that even if he could bring in only one Republican it would still be billed as bipartisan. But it is utter bullshit that we could’ve gotten Medicare for All or a Public Option when even Chuck Schumer was threatening to pull support if the president didn’t stop talking about a Public Option.

Also, don’t forget the make up of the Democratic Caucus and how we got there. Dean’s fifty state strategy involved recruiting and electing a lot of Blue Dog Democrats who simply were NOT and would NEVER be on board with more liberal legislation. Max Baucus and Joe Lieberman (ya know, the guy who campaigned against the nominee of his party?) refused to move any legislation forward with a Public Option, let alone Medicare for All. Please stop listening to the professional left assholes who are more interested in tearing our party apart with lies and misinformation than advancing a progressive agenda. The fact is that the president got the best possible legislation he could’ve gotten at the time and the biggest roadblock was his own caucus, the same folks who have also thwarted every single attempt he’s made to close Gitmo.

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…private, gated river mud! lol

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I doubt any of today’s GOPers give a poop what George Schultz has to say

Every respectable Republican who comes forward and says Trump is unfit for office is good for Dems. No one person’s opinion matters that much.

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The President has to work with Congress. There isn’t another option under our system. Obama isn’t naive. Quite the contrary. That he hasn’t tossed a public hissy fit about McConnell and Ryan’s refusal to compromise shows that he’s an adult who understands the system. The onus is completely on the GOPers who are mucking everything up. The mucking up was McConnell’s very deliberate tactic. He said so publicly.

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Every respectable Republican who comes forward and says Trump is unfit for office is good for Dems. No one person’s opinion matters that much.
[/quote]Every GOP big wig who steps up to criticize their buffoon gives cover to those considering a vote for Hillary. That is what is significant here.

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Please add to your rogue’s gallery the former assistant general counsel, vice president and president of Central National Insurance Group of Omaha, and former Nebraska state insurance director, the esteemed Ben Nelson. In a 2013 article in the WaPo about the death of the public option, Ezra Klein referred to “a handful of conservative Democrats, led by Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, made clear that if there was a public option, they would filibuster the final bill. And so it died.”

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