Discussion: George W. Bush: Religious Freedom Is ‘A Bedrock Of Our Freedom’

i’ve said it before, and i’ll say it again. donald trump is the single best thing ever to happen to W.

trump and his clown car make W and his administration look like a model of intellect, considered action, and wise introspection. and he’s making W look like a statesman among statesmen.

just thinking about the level of incompetence, avarice, hate, dishonesty, and disorganization that it takes to accomplish that is dizzying.

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Well, Rosa said it better: "Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently. "

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Trump: Failed POTUS is right. Since White Khristianity is the only religion in US, I fully support it. Islam is all Brown and is terrorism.

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Come on Georgie… you have nothing to lose.
This is the asshole that trashed your boy Jeb!
Just come out and say it.
He’s an incompetent racist.
It will allow us to forgive many transgressions you committed.

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“Well, I tellya, Matt, Ya can’t have freedom without freedom. That’s what makes us free, coz we have freedom and without it, we don’t. An’ if you don’t have freedom, you’re not free, but if you’ve got your health, ya know, well, nothin else matters.”

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you know, that sounds like a guy with whom i’d like to have a beer.

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The problem with that is it also sounds like a guy who thinks Bud Lite is beer.

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That whole family is a bunch of wussies.

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It’s hard not to notice they didn’t call real 'merica the the Brainland.

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Where was this guy when he was president?

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Wow, W just used more big words in that one statement than Trump’s used his entire life.

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Just wondering
Who is the idiot who brought out the idea of, if we get bush back in the news, maybe trumpity will get a break.
It will backfire immensely, bigly, yuge I am sure.
But then again they needed to fill some space because all other reapers are in class today getting instructions on how to act at the select prez speech thingy tues night.
maybe tweety addict is tied to a podium today in a backroom repeating what the screaming teleprompters, aka Bannon, are brain washing him to say. It’s called discipline.
Or maybe, trumpity just chose to sleep in today
Just wondering. lol

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W is sounding like he’s figured some things out, but he should have expanded on his religious freedom by noting that one group’s religious convictions cannot be imposed on others, especially via public policy.

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I think his statement was fine. He can put in more detail later.
This looks like a shot across the bow from the establishment GOP against Trump.

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The GOP’s courtship of Evangelical Christianists began in earnest with Reagan, but he was never really one of them in his religious beliefs—the only real “religion” that was practiced in his own family was Nancy’s idiot astrology. By contrast, the “born-again” W gave them a permanent desk in the Oval Office and a cot in the Lincoln Bedroom.

When you turn your party’s levers of power over to people who believe that Adam and Eve rode vegetarian T-Rexes in the Garden of Eden 5,000 years ago and that Evangelical Christianity should be the state religion, you’ve willingly abandoned all pretense of rationality when it comes to basic Constitutional rights.

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Maybe my reading comp. is off today but it seems like he’s more eager to take shots at Pres. Obama here when he talks about a position of weakness vis a vis Isis, laying on that same old “we pulled out too soon” crap as if that’s the whole story. Same old simple-minded buffoonery from Dubs. I guess at least he didn’t demonize a huge swath of people based on religion. That’s a pretty low bar but in comparison to what we have now I suppose he looks slightly less horrible.

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OK…I’m really kind of hating it that GWBush is the voice of reason here. However, it did make me think that maybe the REASON GWB could go into hiding for the last 8 years is that basically he agreed with Obama and saw no reason to make any comments. Trump is a whole different animal and destroying all that we hold dear…or that sane people hold dear.

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It began earlier than that----it was originally about preserving segregation in private religious schools and later morphed into opposition to legal abortion, because support for segregation was de trop.

Reagan played up the racist angle in many ways at many times, beginning with announcing his candidacy in Philadephia, Mississippi—where Schwerner, Chaney, and Goodman were murdered.
His later use of the “welfare queen driving a Caddy” and his repeated use of the “strapping young buck” getting undeserved benefits.

Reagan was an expert at dog-whistling, but he was not the start of the right-wing’s cultivation of the phony Christians on the evangelical right.

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That was my first thought when I read Bush’s statement that "They want to advance an ideology, and we have faced those kinds of ideologues in the past.” Evangelical Christianists have crossed the border from a religious belief to a sociopolitical ideology that demands their interpretation of the Bible must be the basis of all civil law. Congress has laid the groundwork with the Religious Freedom Restoration Act and the Supreme Court has done its part to advance their goal with the Hobby Lobby decision that allows discrimination to hide behind the charade of sincerely held religious belief. Somehow I don’t think Bush was including the Evangelicals in his list of “those kinds of ideologues.”

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