Discussion: Gardner Acknowledges Obamacare Repeal Won't Happen

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Gardner later added, “As Republicans, we are committed to having our cake and eating it too.”

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“Rep. Cory Gardner (R-CO), who ousted Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO) on Tuesday, said on Sunday that a full repeal of the health care law isn’t realistic.”
Well knock me over with a feather!

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I guess he’s overlooking those nine folks in Black who are looking at this law again.

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Well no shit, Sherlock. But don’t forget the power of symbolism.

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The extreme base of the Republican party has convinced itself that Gardner and the rest won in no small part on a promise to repeal Obamacare. They don’t want to hear it can’t be done. It’s not even about the ACA itself anymore, it’s the desire to strip away Obama’s signature accomplishment and handing him a defeat. Any effort to tinker with it, legitimizes it as law in their eyes, and that they won’t abide. The insistence that the law is illegitimate is a proxy for their belief that Obama himself is an illegitimate President.

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They’ll ‘repeal’ it.

Plagiarize it

Slap their brand on it…

That’s the ticket.

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The Republicans won’t vote to repeal Obamacare “root and branch” like McConnell wants to. Instead, what they’ll do is try to kill it with a “death by a thousand cuts.” They’ll keep putting poison pill amendments to necessary legislation and then blame Obama for obstruction if he dares to veto it. If he backs down enough, the ACA will collapse.

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‘Brand’ brings to mind the NYT interview with Doonesbury’s author GaryTrudeau –

You went to Yale with George W. Bush. When I was a sophomore and W. was a senior, I illustrated an article for the newspaper about hazing at Bush’s fraternity — D.K.E. had been branding initiates with a red-hot iron. It became a national story. The Times assigned a reporter, who came up to New Haven and interviewed Bush. And Bush described the branding as no worse than a cigarette burn. His first interview in the national media was in defense of torture.
Did you know him personally? We were on the social committee, and our main responsibilities were to order kegs of beer and select bands.

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They need Obamacare in place so they can fundraise off of it. Kinda like the massive amount of money and support they got from the Right, for trying to ban all abortions. They need a boogie man.

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Yes, by all means let us repeal the medical device tax and the IPAD Board, because all across the country, people aren’t getting pacemakers and joint replacements or buying new chest tubes because the cost of them has gone up 2.3% and, whatever we do, we must not have any experts to evaluate the efficacy of drugs and treatments, develop best practices or in any way look at whether we’re pissing away hundreds of billions of dollars on drugs and treatments that don’t work any better than much cheaper drugs and treatments.

All of our talking heads should nod their heads in sage agreement over the need to make these wise and fiscally prudent modifications to the law before John Roberts and his pals gut the entire law like a fish.

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Well Colorado…it looks like you elected a full blown GOP’er and politician. Not the man with “new ideas” the Denver Post endorsed. Repeal of the Med Devise tax is not a ‘new idea’ its a GOP’er gimmie to the 1% that’s been around since 2008 when it was thought it might be an ACA killer. IPAB is nothing but a group of folks chartered to find ways to prevent waste in Medicare ( it may not suggest reduction in benefits ) and is hated by the 1 % folks that live off that waste ( folks like Governor Scott in Florida ). Its repeal is also not a new idea ( talking at you Denver Post ) and is advanced by suggesting IPAB is a “death panel”. “Restoring the 40 hour work week” is GOP’er talk for allowing employers to have 40 hour a week employees they do not provide health care. It is not a pro-worker idea and its not Gardner’s idea either.

So Colorado congratulations!. You elected a formula GOP’er that can’t wait to start fucking you silly. Colorado has near 1/4 million folks that got health care via the ACA but elected a Senator that will use every GOP’er trick he can to take it away. He hates pot too and wants to make it punishable by long harsh sentences. The DP endorsed that. Ill bet the dumb ass pot smokers in CO still buy the paper.

You know what? I hope they, the GOP’ers with their new member Gardner, bust O’care and leave the dumb asses that voted for that to happen on the street to croak.

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“I do think we need to repeal and replace Obamacare, but the president named Obama is not going to repeal a bill named Obamacare,” Gardner said on ABC’s “This Week.” "

Minor problem with that “logic.” The bill is named the Affordable Care Act. The only people who call it “Obamacare” are the Teavangelicals and Teahadists.

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You are right…and you are wrong. It’s called the ACA but like all things the GOP’ers whipped up a pejorative for it, Obamacare, and that is all ANYONE uses. Prominent media folks use it, Judges use it as well as most of the ACA’s supporters. It’s a pejorative and should not be used by anyone but watch NBC, CBS or ABC and it’s all you will hear.

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Yes, that “restore the 40-hour work week” BS makes me sick and it is the talking point we will hear over and over again. It sounds so “worker friendly” just like Rick Perry’s glasses make him look so smart.

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Of course, the Republicans know that full repeal of rthe Affordable Care Act is impossible as long as President Obama remains in office.

They know that Obama will surely veto any attempt to repeal his signature domestic policy acheivement.

They know that they have nowhere near the two-thirds majorities in the House (291) and Senate (67) mandated by the Constitution to override the president’s all-but-certian vetoes.

They know that Senate Democrats are likely to block any “Obamacare” repeal measure with a filibuster – more likely by imposing the very same 60-vote requirement rule that the GOP imposed when they were in the minority.

With Republicans holding only 53 Senate seats at the most – pending the outcome of the December Louisiana runoff – attempts to repeal “Obamacare” are doomed to be exercises in futility.

So why are Ted Cruz and other Tea Party Republicans so hell-bent on pushing for repeal despite knowing full well that it won’t happen?

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Mr. Personhood liar has NO POWER! Newbie an all!

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Just saw that, probably from Gardner for the first time a few days ago, and now again…but what the hell does “restore the 40-hour work week” refer too??

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Eliminating overtime pay?
Upping the hours worked required to provide health benefits from 30 hours-- to 40 hours-- a week?

What ever it is?
As benign as (R)s can possibly make it sound?
It’ll screw over some segment of the population for the benefit of (R)s oligarchic overlords.

jw1

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So what is the 40 hour work week issue he talked about?