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Penn State recently suspended Kappa Delta Rho for three years. The fraternity’s national office on Monday expelled 38 fraternity members, saying they violated the fraternity’s values.
Such as getting caught?
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You read this and you have to ask…Penn…are you shitting me? Are you saying you had no idea they were hazing folks in the Frats? JFC…they do it all the time and all over. And fucking drop that line of shit about him “not wanting to file a complaint” That doesn’t let you off the hook. YOU fucking file the complaint. It’s you God damn campus.
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School after school, frat after frat. Year after year. The culture is entirely corrupt. The culture encourages bad behavior by secrecy, membership control, and control of alcohol access for underage persons. The frat system should be eliminated.
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“The frat system should be eliminated.”
Especially at a public university. Bad enough these elitist organizations exist in private schools.
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So the complainant tells the university about this in April, 2014, and the university “investigation” takes almost a year to determine that sexual harassment and humiliation was “persistent,” which connotes it went on for some time?
Reminds me of what Frank Drebbin told Wilma, the wife of a cop shot 57 times but no vital organ struck: “Wilma, I promise you, not a man on this force will rest one minute until whoever did this is behind bars, Now let’s go get something to eat.”
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The university doesn’t realize that the complainant’s failure to “cooperate” with the local police and university-employed investigators isn’t necessarily a point against the complainant.
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“Asked why Vivenzio didn’t simply quit the fraternity, Freiwald said the prevailing “bro culture” on many campuses makes that harder than it sounds.”
I call BS!
If you don’t have the character to not become a total lemming to demoralizing criminal activities, than no one can help these hapless ninnies. Time to grow up!
In fact, complainants do not cooperate with university investigators often because the message they get informally is that if they file a complaint they will be “raked over the coals,” as the complainant claimed in the (Florida State) Jameis Winston alleged sexual assault case. So the failure of a complainant to cooperate may be more a reflection of the university’s bad faith re-victimization of the complainant than any failing on the part of the victim.
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Notwithstanding the issue of standing to file the suit within a court of law, this fraternity is not on campus. It’s within the State College police jurisdiction, not the University.
These acts are disgusting, but this kid didn’t have to pledge and was free to walk away at any time. His attorney is using the same language we heard during the Sandusky scandal, and that is no mistake. He’s trying to capitalize on the bad press and poor reputation the school received. His attorney knows who has the deep pockets, and it’s not the fraternity.
This suit is meant to compare pledging a frat to the heinous crimes committed by a monster. IMO that does a huge disservice to the victims of that monster. A fraternity pledge is not equal to a victim of child abuse.