Oh, Franklin, we put our money in, then we pull it out…put it in, pull it out…in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out, in…
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Looking for a gay-unfriendly bank, Franklin? Guess I’ll have our patron saint address that
Give it up, Franklin. We’re smarter than you, more acceptable than you and people support our rights.
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But they should not be trying to get into a moral debate and take sides," he said.
This makes absolutely no sense. Wells Fargo just wants to get their hands on people’s money. Refusing to market to gay people with money just because they’re gay people with money would be the very definition of getting into a moral debate and taking sides.
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“A bank should be promoting the best interest rates they’re going to give me and what they can do for me as a business. But they should not be trying to get into a moral debate and take sides,” he said.
Darn straight. It is a bank, not a bakery, or a crafts-supply chain, or a seller of fast-food chicken sandwiches, or a hospital, or a university.
Today I met w/David & Steve Green at @HobbyLobby hdqrs. We need more Christian business leaders like them who stand for biblical values.
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“A bank should be promoting the best interest rates they’re going to give me and what they can do for me as a business. But they should not be trying to get into a moral debate and take sides,”
But if they’re a for-profit company of any kind they should certainly be in total control over the moral decisions regarding the medical and recreational activities their female employees are engaging in with their vajayjays and wombs?
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Odds are that Franklin originally used Wachovia Bank out of Charlotte (acquired by Wells Fargo in 2008). Interesting that a gay-friendly bank from San Francisco acquired a bank out of the Bible Belt that was headed for bankruptcy. Perhaps the gay-friendly bank had a better business model than the Southern bank.
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Who knew the little boy playing on the floor when Edward R. Murrow interviewed Billy Graham on ‘Person to Person’ in 1956 would grow up to be such an asshole…
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He could always keep his money safe from teh gay under his mattress.
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Unless that mattress is made by Mitchell Gold in NC.
Guess Franklin will be cut off from the real world. Companies supporting equality:
Employer Headquarters Location No. of Years at 100%
3M Co. St. Paul, MN 1
AAA Northern California, Nevada and Utah San Francisco, CA 4
Abercrombie & Fitch Co. New Albany, OH 3
Accenture Ltd. New York, NY 2
Aetna Inc. Hartford, CT 7
Agilent Technologies Inc. Santa Clara, CA 5
Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer & Feld LLP Washington, DC 2
Alaska Airlines Seattle, WA 1
Alcatel-Lucent Murray Hill, NJ 7
Allianz Life Insurance Co. of North America Minneapolis, MN 3
Allstate Corp., The Northbrook, IL 2
Alston & Bird LLP Atlanta, GA 4
American Express Co. New York, NY 5
Ameriprise Financial Inc. Minneapolis, MN 3
AMR Corp. (American Airlines) Fort Worth, TX 7
Anheuser-Busch Companies Inc. St. Louis, MO 3
Aon Corp. Chicago, IL 2
Apple Inc. Cupertino, CA 7
Arent Fox LLP Washington, DC 1
Arnold & Porter LLP Washington, DC 3
AT&T Inc. San Antonio, TX 4
Bain & Co. Inc. (& Bridgespan Group Inc.) Boston, MA 3
Baker & Daniels LLP Indianapolis, IN 1
Bank of America Corp. Charlotte, NC 3
Bank of New York Mellon Corp., The New York, NY 1
Barnes & Noble Inc. New York, NY 1
BASF Corp. Florham Park, NJ 1
Bausch & Lomb Inc. Rochester, NY 6
Best Buy Co. Inc. Richfi eld, MN 5
Bingham McCutchen LLP Boston, MA 2
BMC Software Inc. Houston, TX 1
Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals Inc. Ridgefi eld, CT 2
Boeing Co. Chicago, IL 3
Borders Group Inc. Ann Arbor, MI 4
Boston Consulting Group Boston, MA 2
BP America Inc. Houston, TX 4
Bright Horizons Family Solutions Inc. Watertown, MA 3
Brinker International Inc. Dallas, TX 3
Bristol-Myers Squibb Co. New York, NY 3
Brown Rudnick LLP Boston, MA 1
Bryan Cave LLP St. Louis, MO 2
Campbell Soup Co. Camden, NJ 1
Capital One Financial Corp. McLean, VA 6
Cardinal Health Dublin, OH 1
Cargill Inc. Wayzata, MN 5
Carlson Companies Inc. Minnetonka, MN 3
Carmax Inc. Richmond, VA 1
Charles Schwab Corp., The San Francisco, CA 5
Chevron Corp. San Ramon, CA 4
ChoicePoint Inc. Alpharetta, GA 5
Chrysler LLC Auburn Hills, MI 4
Chubb Corp. Warren, NJ 5
Cisco Systems Inc. San Jose, CA 5
Citigroup Inc. New York, NY 5
Clear Channel Communications Inc. San Antonio, TX 3
Cleary, Gottlieb, Steen & Hamilton LLP New York, NY 2
Clifford Chance US LLP New York, NY 1
Clorox Co. Oakland, CA 3
CNA Insurance Chicago, IL 3
Coca-Cola Co., The Atlanta, GA 3
Coca-Cola Enterprises Inc. Atlanta, GA 1
Constellation Energy Group Inc. Baltimore, MD 1
Continental Airlines Inc. Houston, TX 1
Coors Brewing Co. Denver, CO 5
Corning Inc. Corning, NY 4
Covington & Burling LLP Washington, DC 1
Cox Enterprises Inc./Cox Communications Inc. Atlanta, GA 1
Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP New York, NY 1
Credit Suisse USA Inc. New York, NY 4
Cummins Inc. Columbus, IN 4
D
Debevoise & Plimpton LLP New York, NY 1
Dell Inc. Round Rock, TX 5
Deloitte LLP New York, NY 3
Deutsche Bank New York, NY 6
Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP New York, NY 1
Diageo North America Norwalk, CT 1
Dickstein Shapiro LLP Washington, DC 2
DLA Piper Baltimore, MD 1
Dorsey & Whitney LLP Minneapolis, MN 3
Dow Chemical Co. Midland, MI 4
DuPont (E.I. du Pont de Nemours) Wilmington, DE 3
E
Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY 7
eBay Inc. San Jose, CA 1
Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge LLP Boston, MA 1
Electronic Arts Inc. Redwood City, CA 2
Eli Lilly & Co. Indianapolis, IN 3
Ernst & Young LLP New York, NY 4
Estee Lauder Companies New York, NY 4
Esurance Inc. San Francisco, CA 2
F
Faegre & Benson LLP Minneapolis, MN 5
Fannie Mae Washington, DC 3
Foley & Lardner LLP Milwaukee, WI 2
Foley Hoag LLP Boston, MA 2
Ford Motor Co. Dearborn, MI 5
Freescale Semiconductor Inc. Austin, TX 4
Fried, Frank, Haris, Shriver & Jacobson LLP New York, NY 1
G
GameStop Corp. Grapevine, TX 2
Gap Inc. San Francisco, CA 4
Genentech Inc. South San Francisco, CA 2
General Motors Corp. Detroit, MI 3
Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP Los Angeles, CA 1
GlaxoSmithKline plc Philadelphia, PA 4
Global Hyatt Corp. Chicago, IL 4
Goldman Sachs Group Inc., The New York, NY 5
Google Inc. Mountain View, CA 3
Just A-G, but you get the idea.
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H
Harrah’s Entertainment Inc. Las Vegas, NV 2
Hartford Financial Services Co. Hartford, CT 2
Harvard Pilgrim Health Care Inc. Wellesley, MA 3
Haynes and Boone LLP Dallas, TX 1
Heller Ehrman LLP San Francisco, CA 3
Herman Miller Inc. Zeeland, MI 2
Hewitt Associates Lincolnshire, IL 3
Hewlett-Packard Co. Palo Alto, CA 6
Hoffmann-La Roche Inc. Nutley, NJ 1
Holland & Knight LLP Miami, FL 2
Honeywell International Inc. Morristown, NJ 3
Hospira Inc. Lake Forest, IL 3
Howrey LLP Washington, DC 1
HSBC - North America Mettawa, IL 2
Husch Blackwell Sanders LLP Kansas City, MO 1
I
IndyMac Bancorp Inc. Pasadena, CA 2
ING North America Insurance Corp. Atlanta, GA 3
Intel Corp. Santa Clara, CA 7
International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) Armonk, NY 6
Intuit Inc. Mountain View, CA 4
J
J.C. Penney Co. Inc. Plano, TX 2
J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. New York, NY 7
Jenner & Block LLP Chicago, IL 4
Johnson & Johnson New Brunswick, NJ 4
K
Kaiser Permanente Oakland, CA 4
KeyCorp Cleveland, OH 2
Kimberly-Clark Corp. Irving, TX 1
Kimpton Hotel & Restaurant Group Inc. San Francisco, CA 5
Kirkland & Ellis LLP Chicago, IL 2
KPMG LLP New York, NY 4
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP New York, NY 2
L
Latham & Watkins LLP New York, NY 2
Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. New York, NY 6
Levi Strauss & Co. San Francisco, CA 6
Lexmark International Inc. Lexington, KY 4
Littler Mendelson PC San Francisco, CA 1
Liz Claiborne Inc. New York, NY 3
Lockheed Martin Corp. Bethesda, MD 1
M
Macy’s Inc. Cincinnati, OH 2
Manatt, Phelps & Phillips LLP Los Angeles, CA 1
Marriott International Inc. Bethesda, MD 2
Marsh & McLennan Companies Inc. New York, NY 1
Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Co. Springfi eld, MA 2
MasterCard Inc. Purchase, NY 2
McDermott Will & Emery LLP Chicago, IL 3
McKinsey & Co. Inc. New York, NY 3
Merck & Co. Inc. Whitehouse Station, NJ 3
Merrill Lynch & Co. New York, NY 4
MetLife Inc. New York, NY 6
Microsoft Corp. Redmond, WA 4
Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky & Popeo PC Boston, MA 2
Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams Taylorsville, NC 6
Morgan Stanley New York, NY 3
Morrison & Foerster LLP San Francisco, CA 6
Motorola Inc. Schaumburg, IL 5
N
National Grid USA Brooklyn, NY 2
Nationwide Columbus, OH 5
NCR Corp. Dayton, OH 7
New York Life Insurance Co. New York, NY 1
New York Times Co. New York, NY 5
Newell Rubbermaid Inc. Atlanta, GA 2
Nielsen Co., The Schaumburg, IL 1
Nike Inc. Beaverton, OR 7
Nixon Peabody LLP New York, NY 3
Nordstrom Inc. Seattle, WA 4
Northern Trust Corp. Chicago, IL 3
Northrop Grumman Corp. Los Angeles, CA 3
Novartis Pharmaceutical Corp. East Hanover, NJ 1
O
O’Melveny & Myers LLP Washington, DC 2
Oracle Corp. Redwood City, CA 2
Orbitz Worldwide Inc. Chicago, IL 1
Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe LLP San Francisco, CA 3
Owens Corning Toledo, OH 5
P
Patterson Belknap Webb & Tyler LLP New York, NY 1
Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker LLP Los Angeles, CA 2
Pepsi Bottling Group Inc., The Somers, NY 1
PepsiCo Inc. Purchase, NY 5
Perkins Coie Seattle, WA 1
Pfizer Inc. New York, NY 5
PG&E Corp. San Francisco, CA 6
Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP San Francisco, CA 3
Powell Goldstein LLP Atlanta, GA 3
PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP New York, NY 3
Progressive Corp., The Mayfield Village, OH 1
Proskauer Rose LLP New York, NY 1
Prudential Financial Inc. Newark, NJ 6
R
Raymond James Financial Inc. St. Petersburg, FL 1
Raytheon Co. Waltham, MA 4
Recreational Equipment Inc. Kent, WA 2
Replacements Ltd. McLeansville, NC 7
Reynolds American Inc. Winston-Salem, NC 1
Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi LLP Minneapolis, MN 1
Ropes & Gray LLP Boston, MA 1
S
Sabre Holdings Inc. Southlake, TX 1
S. C. Johnson & Son Inc. Racine, WI 6
Schering-Plough Corp. Kenilworth, NJ 3
Sears Holdings Corp. Hoffman Estates, IL 4
Sedgwick, Detert, Moran & Arnold LLP San Francisco, CA 1
Sempra Energy San Diego, CA 1
Seyfarth Shaw LLP Chicago, IL 1
Shell Oil Co. Houston, TX 1
Sidley Austin LLP Chicago, IL 2
Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP New York, NY 1
Sodexho Inc. Gaithersburg, MD 2
Sonnenschein, Nath & Rosenthal LLP Chicago, IL 2
Southern California Edison Co. Rosemead, CA 1
Sprint Nextel Corp. Overland Park, KS 4
Squire, Sanders & Dempsey LLP Cleveland, OH 1
Starbucks Corp. Seattle, WA 2
Starcom MediaVest Group Chicago, IL 3
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide White Plains, NY 3
State Street Corp. Boston, MA 3
Subaru of America Inc. Cherry Hill, NJ 2
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP New York, NY 1
Sun Life Financial Inc. (U.S.) Wellesley Hills, MA 1
Sun Microsystems Inc. Santa Clara, CA 4
SunTrust Banks Inc. Atlanta, GA 4
Supervalu Inc. Eden Prairie, MN 2
Symantec Corp. Cupertino, CA 1
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Target Corp. Minneapolis, MN 1
Tech Data Corp. Clearwater, FL 4
Texas Instruments Inc. Dallas, TX 1
Thompson Coburn LLP St. Louis, MO 1
Time Warner Inc. New York, NY 2
TJX Companies, Inc., The Framingham, MA 1
Toyota Financial Services Corp. Torrance, CA 1
Toyota Motor Sales USA Inc. Torrance, CA 3
Travelport Inc. Parsippany, NJ 2
Troutman Sanders LLP Atlanta, GA 1
U
U.S. Bancorp Minneapolis, MN 2
UBS AG Stamford, CT 4
Unilever Englewood Cliffs, NJ 1
United Business Media LLC Manhasset, NY 1
United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) Atlanta, GA 2
US Airways Group Inc. Tempe, AZ 4
V
Viacom Inc. New York, NY 4
Vinson & Elkins LLP Houston, TX 1
Visa Foster City, CA 3
Visteon Corp. Van Buren Township, MI 1
Volkswagen of America Inc. Herndon, VA 3
W
Wachovia Corp. Charlotte, NC 3
Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz LLP New York, NY 1
Walgreen Co. Deerfi eld, IL 4
Walt Disney Co. Burbank, CA 3
Washington Mutual Inc. Seattle, WA 3
Weil, Gotshal & Manges LLP New York, NY 1
Wells Fargo & Co. San Francisco, CA 5
Whirlpool Corp. Benton Harbor, MI 5
White & Case LLP New York, NY 1
Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr LLP Washington, DC 1
Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati PC Palo Alto, CA 1
Winston & Strawn LLP Chicago, IL 1
Wyndham Worldwide Corp. Parsippany, NJ 3
X
Xerox Corp. Norwalk, CT 7
Y
Yahoo! Inc. Sunnyvale, CA 2
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Well, I’m guessing that Franklin gets chauffeured in a Mercedes anyway. But you know the Heartbeat of America brand, the one you used to See the USA in?
No Chevy for you either, Franklin.
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Graham can send all of his money to ME. I’ll “take care of it.” (I am not bothered by gay people, however, so I guess I’m not qualified. That and the whole “I’m not a bank” thing might just torpedo my plans.
Poor graham jr., just can’t seem to find a bigoted, racist bank where he can stash all the money he and his dad pilfered from the oldsters that believe his crap because they are afraid of death…
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Well jr., if you want to get technical, didn’t Jesus throw the money lenders out of the temple?
So, should you be banking with any bank? I mean, at all? Since the function of any bank is money lending!!
I mean, if we are going to take the bybul literally.
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Franklin Graham’s stance is not about morality, just the appearance of morality that will keep the money coming in from the rubes. We already know his ministry is not about doing good things (unless you count loading up his personal bank account with more money as good things).
… never a miscommunication.
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He could always try the National Bank of Uganda. I’m sure they would be happy to take his millions of not-gay dollars.
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It’s just getting so hard to be a really quality Christian bigot. Something must change.