Trump: you two just need to give the white people your jobs. That’ll take care of it.
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Man, I’ll bet they had to replace the couch after the three grinning assholes who host the Idiot Whisperer Show shat bricks upon it after watching that propaganda fail.
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Thanks for bring some bracing moral clarity to the discussion. I was getting a little verklempt over this.
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Because carrying through with what the Republican party has been dog-whistling about with less and less subtlty for decades is a “betrayal.” Party of personal responsibility my ass, you all built this Mr. GOP Strategist. You made it possible, you and your party.
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It’s pretty jaw dropping to read. Reliable rightwing panelists on Fox crying over the president betraying our values.
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OT but…Holy Shitballs! LOL!
You gotta read this account by Kathy Griffin about how a CBS executive told her to beg Trump’s forgiveness. She blacked out the exec’s name and email but it is absolutely fucking insane. And sounds EXACTLY like a Trump supporter, no matter their income or their position:
Personally, I always thought Kathy Griffin got fucked over when people like Ted Nugent and the rest never really paid a price for their threats. And I hope CBS denies it, thereby forcing her to reveal the name of the batshit executive. I wonder if he or she is on Trump’s phony “economic council”?
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Too true. They are trying to change the conversation to ‘slave owners’ instead of the Confederacy. NeoNazis to Robert Byrd…and on and on and on…
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That’s one way to go, but pretty unlikely to happen. There may be some theoretical best way to deal with these types of things. But we are human. While violent reactions to these types of marches may not be the best reaction, as a human being it is easy to understand why people might react that way. We can’t expect perfect, peaceful reactions to this hatred, and we can’t, as Trump is trying to do, condemn the protesters when some of them, understandably, react violently.
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Tucker Carlson: “But the Aztecs owned slaves!”
It’s the new “But her emails!”.
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It’s not apples to oranges, and you can’t really put Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee at the opposite end of the spectrum from Washington and Jefferson when you discuss slavery. Of course you can if it’s just the Civil War you’re discussing, and you can remember that Jefferson was deeply troubled by the question of slavery. But that kind of thing is what needs to be part of the discussion.
The United States needs to pull itself up by its bootstraps and address its sins, the sin of slavery particularly, but I think native Americans might have a word or two to say as well. Germany’s done it in regard to anti-semitism and Nazism, and we need to do it too. We’ve needed to do it for a very long time.
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After Trump’s comments implicitly endorsing the KKK/Nazis/White supremists, members of the GOP Congress issued a joint statement: “so long as Trump will lower taxes on the rich, restrict voting rights for Blacks and other minorities, and continuously seek to strip tens of millions of health insurance, we are in it with him to the end.”
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Not suggesting feeding it. What Trump is trying to do is to both establish moral equivalence between the Nazis and the protesters, and dismiss them as a whole, based on the violence of a few of the protesters. One answer to that is that most of the protesters did not instigate violence, and the Nazis did to a much larger degree. But another answer is to say you know, a bunch of Nazis turn up in town, people are going to get pretty angry, and fighting back is an understandable response. We don’t want to encourage it, but we’re not going to write off the protests either because of it.
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Abby Huntsman.
Gee, isn’t she the moderate daughter of that great moderate John Huntsman, trying to do a moderate job defending moderate Nazis and moderate white supremacists?
Oh, yeah. That’s right! She’s a REPUBLICAN!
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No I know you’re not, and I wasn’t suggesting that you are. I took you as divided as I am.
Never forget, they are Tiki Nazis. Exactly like real Nazis, only with marginally better mosquito protection.
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Yes, and the way the economy has been, those Holocaust-denying jobs are getting harder and harder to find!
A more serious reply to your point: I’ve noticed over the last few days that Chris Hayes (or Joy Reid filling in) and Rachel Maddow have had on several conservative guests that normally I seethe at, but are now saying “sensible” things. Understanding that “sensible” in this context means clearing the very low bar of condemning Nazis. I hate that Trump has now caused a situation where I nod my head in agreement with Bill Kristol. <shudder>
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Which from the party of “Stand your ground” is ridiculous on its face. One side is using violence to advance an agenda of genocide and mass murder, the other, to the extent it is using violence, is using it to stand against said agenda of murder and genocide. But then I suppose we always knew they only meant for that “Stand your ground” stuff to serve as a tool for getting away with killing minorities.
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The other day Fox had
Right Wing activist Star Parker comparing the Pride flag to the Confederate flag and actually arguing that they were no joke one of the same. She used to occasionally be a guest on the old Bill Maher Politically Correct show. One night she said we don’t need all these regulations including the clean water act. She actually said in effect “We don’t need it, if you want clean water, just go to the store and buy some Evian” My jaw dropped. She’s not the brightest star pun intended.
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Trump just lost another CEO:
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