Discussion: Fox News Blames Trump's Iowa Loss On His Debate Boycott

Post hoc fallacy.

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Am I the only one who is a little let down by all this? I had hopes that Trump would last longer, not peak too soon, he’s such a marvelous wrecking ball amongst the Republicans. Rubio may be very hard for HRC or Bernie to beat in the general.

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They give themselves far too much credit.

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Ouch!

I think the premise here is that he lost supporters by not showing up. He only lost by a few percentage points, it is not unreasonable to think that by not showing up for the debate a few ā€œnutā€ people jumped from Trump to Cruz. Had this been a larger margin I might agree with you, but blowing off debates is not really a way of engaging people to vote for you, and could easily cost you a few percent.

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Big question will be will the talk radio people pummel Rubio over the course of the primaries, while Trump and Cruz do the same…and will Trump supporters come out for Rubio or will they just stay home. It’s unclear Rubio can garner enough votes before the convention.

I’m coining a new phrase (I think) and calling it the, drum roll please… RETROLL ā„¢.

Similar to the retweet but with unlimited capacity for insult, snark, innuendo, conjecture, faux intellectualism, braggadocio, vulgarity, racism and rampant assholishness.

Plus a retroll isn’t a verbatim thing, it can go off the rails in all directions. For instance, Faux starts out hitting Trump back for dissing on them, Trump retrolls that Faux is low energy and nothing but a public access cable station.
Bang, the retroll war is on!

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mames5: suggested that the only thing of consequence that happened since those polls were released was the FOX debate.

was it skipping the debate? or did people just see through the veteran’s aid ruse for what it was? when vet’s groups decline to be used, would get my attention.

And Trump says he and Fox are friends again?

Among evangelicals and socially conservative. Fiscally conservative and mainstream conservatives like the straight talk if not all the unnecessary bluster…

ā€œBecause we’re important, dammit! See, this proves we are.ā€

Welcome to circulkar logic.

They would say that, wouldn’t they ?

Absolutement. Sorry for late response. Had to leave fo run errands.

RETROLLTM

Fixed it.

Thanks, I knew I had it wrong but was too lazy to find the actual trademark mark, if that is even what it is called?

I’m going to search, royalties, now though ; )

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I just superscripted your TM. TM is universal, but once you register it on the federal register, it becomes circle-R (I don’t have the symbol at the moment).

Let me know if I can help… :wink: For a small fee…

AKA, a refee, the trend continues ; )

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Makes perfect sense. His ā€œnon-debateā€ was a really wussy thing to do (not to mention being a real jerk move). But Trump’s appeal is in being confrontational and not being wussy. I think even the reptilian brains that Trump appeals to in the Republican party noticed this ā€œless than alphaā€ behavior intuitively…

Trump will be around, all the way to the White House. I just hope he keeps his focus on immigration, border control, and (un)fair trade and not on remodeling the White House. We need to make America great again, but that should not involve renovations to historic buildings.

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I think it’s hard to say - Trump’s appeal is fairly unique - his shtick not a that of a conservative in the classical sense, more of an Archie Bunker populist. I don’t have a very good idea as to where his followers would go if they didn’t have him to adhere to. It might sound nuts but Bernie is almost a plausible alternative. Forget the lefty politics for a minute: Bernie is really the only other candidate this year who is addressing (in a much more wholesome way, of course) the fear and anger of working people, and he has potential for some serious crossover appeal.