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OH get ready for “Obama wrote a bad law,” yada yada.
HAMMER HOME:
“Congress can fix this non-issue with a simple vote to change the language.”
HAMMER THAT HOME.
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But some say they’d have lost a potentially powerful cudgel for the 2016 campaigns: Being able to accuse Republicans of ending the assistance and disrupting health coverage for many.
Democrats could say that they stood for preventing millions of people from having their healthcare insurance ended by the Pubbies and Pubbies could not deny that without lying about it. Swinging the hammer of blaming Pubbies for ending coverage for millions of people would make it very difficult for Pubbies to deny their role in ending healthcare coverage for millions if the ruling goes that way. Either way, the Pubbie’s past record on opposition to Obamacare is very clear.
Republicans, if they believed their own bullshit for half a second, shouldn’t fear a backlash against sparing people from the awful, big government, socialist monstrosity that they think Obamacare is. They should expect to be rewarded.
Even Ron Johnson, author of the Ron Johnson Reelection Act to Delay Stripping Away Subsidies Until After Election Day, admitted as much. His fear has nothing to do with people losing their health insurance, and everything to do with Russ Feingold criticizing him for suing to take it away.
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The anger is growing among the GOP’s aged, low/no info bagger & con “base” that the ACA and ~shudder!~ “Obamacare” are one and the same and their lower premiums for better coverage are in danger of going away! And it’s their own party’s fault that THEY could be harmed significantly. Oh…the humanity! And the GOPher’ politicians are piss-in-their-pants terrified that should the worst happen at the SCOTUS, the well deserved blame will cause a catastrophic backlash against them. What could one say then, but …KARMA, YOU BASTARDS!
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But for the harm to so many innocent people a negative ruling could cause, this would be a splendid shadenfreude moment because the RepubliKKKlans’ have royally screwed the pooch on this one. The Republican dominated states that accepted the Medicaid expansion are depending on the subsidies to fill out their budget by not having to provide those funds from their state’s general funds. If the ruling goes against Obamacare, those subsidies will go out the window leaving the states with big holes in their budget they cannot cover and their citizens without any medical coverage at all…and the seething anger will only grow as the election cycle continues.
For example, that creepy Gov Skeletor Scott of Florida found that out the hard way. He has known, at least since last May, that if he didn’t accept the Medicaid expansion, he would lose federal funding for it. Well he didn’t and the feds (CMS) have told him no more funding. Now he is screaming, stomping his little hooved feet and threatening to sue the Feds because he has a huge, a monumental hole in his budget and no way to cover it.
If SCOTUS finds against the subsidies, there is no one to blame except the Republicans and their hatred for the President and the backlash against them will be great. If they agree to fix the problem the backlash against them by their crazed Right Wingnut true believers will be ferocious.
“Hoisted on their own petard.” Mmmm…pass the popcorn.
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I simply double-dog dare Chief Justice John, The Umpire, Stare Decisis, Roberts and his cronies to do it in.
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First, I do NOT expect SCOTUS to rule against ACA. The argument against the subsidies are transparently ridiculous. Second, should SCOUTUS rule against the ACA, the GOP will try to postpone the effects until after the 2016 elections and do nothing more…no permanent fix, no improvements, no alternatives. Third, The GOP isn’t able to enact anything.
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On the subject of the ACA, the Republicans make a dog chasing a car look like a master of long-range planning.
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“Should the Obama administration win, relieved Democrats would crow that
Obama’s foremost domestic achievement had stood unscathed. But some say
they’d have lost a potentially powerful cudgel for the 2016 campaigns:
Being able to accuse Republicans of ending the assistance and disrupting
health coverage for many.”
Typical media horserace analysis.Democrats have already “won” the heath care battle. If any Dem wishes for a supreme court gutting the law just for campaign purposes should be drawn and quartered. That is Tea Tard behavior.
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I’d agree but the lead misanthrope on SCOTUS Scalia has said, and I’m paraphrasing, the law should be what was enacted not what Congress thought it was enacting.
I thought I was cynical, but the idea of seeing the preservation of health care as a loser because it takes away a campaign issue is just plain repulsive.
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““If you win the case you actually have people who lost their insurance.
You now share the responsibility for fixing it,” said former Rep. Tom
Davis, R-Va., who once led the House GOP campaign committee. “And you’ve
got a lot of pissed off people. That hurts you.””
It should hurt your party, Tom. After all you GOPers were against health care reform before and after the law was passed. AND you have no “fix it” in the pipe line either cuz dammit YOU DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HEATH CARE Never have, never will.
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I am tempted to change the name of “party” to
“collection of demons”
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Go ahead. I won’t mind at all.
Jesus. Even by AP standards, this article is hacktacular.
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“Should the Obama administration win, relieved Democrats would crow that
Obama’s foremost domestic achievement had stood unscathed. But some say
they’d have lost a potentially powerful cudgel for the 2016 campaigns:
Being able to accuse Republicans of ending the assistance and disrupting
health coverage for many.”
Huh? What a ridiculous thing to say. Ron Fournier’s evil spirit still haunts AP, I fear.
Ala Fram
Such a stupid assertion in your stupid article.
You say Obama and Dems lose if subsidies are preserved in SCOTUS case ?
Because they can’t use it to bash Republicans and elect a Democrat in 2016 - to get subsidies back.
Ridiculous logic.
I think a King win would lead to a redstate wipeout of the GOP, but then, those are the same idiots that voted for those crooks in the first place, so who knows.
It was ever thus.