Discussion for article #231503
Anyone who was alive at the time knew what was going on. Itās safe to assume the FBI wasnāt acting without LBJās approval.
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Those in denial are doomed to repeat their history, over and over again, while the rest of us move on into the future.
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Selma was LBJās ideaā¦
Why do I have a hard time believing that? A really hard time.
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I donāt think thatās true that the FBI acted with LBJās approval. Remember that Hoover and his FBI were a power unto themselves that need no ones authority and Hoover hated, detested and despised Dr King. Remember that both Kennedy and LBJ were friends of Dr King and the civil rights movement but didnāt like it when Kingās protest marches pushed things too much and too fast.
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You must be pretty young.
J. Edgar Hoover was the director of the FBI from 1934 until his death in 1972. He did pretty much whatever the hell he wanted to no mater who was President (many of whom feared him and his detailed files on everyone and everything) and he HATED JBJ (almost as much as he hated JFK) and did everything in the FBIās power (which was considerable) to destroy MLK whom he considered āthe most dangerous man in America.ā
He was a very, very dangerous (and unstable) man wielding immense, essentially unchecked power in a very tumultuous time.
The FBI frequently did things on itās own without the knowledge or consent of the White-house no matter who was President.
FDR didnāt trust him.
Truman fought with him endlessly.
Eisenhower cow-towed to him publicly (and railed about him privately.)
JFK tried (unsuccessfully) to rein him in via his brother RFK the Attorney General, and they both died for it.
JBJ didnāt trust him as far as he could throw him and worked around him whenever possible.
Nixon placated him while secretly working against him via the CIA, then he died in 1972.
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Did they consider themselves free to fill the screen with falsehoods,
immune from any responsibility to the dead,
just because they thought it made for a better story?" he wrote.
Yes.
Sorry Mr. Califano. But, yes.
It is-- after all-- a for-profit production.
jw1
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Cite?
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Thatās ridiculous. Read ĀØParting the WatersĀØ by Taylor Branch. LBJ, whatever his faults, was far and away the most important person inside government responsible for the passage of the Voting Rights Act. Obviously, the civil rights movement made it possible, but without LBJ, who knows what might have happened.
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Christ, I reread your post. What libertarian claptrap.
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Interesting.
Even Oliver Stone didnāt go there.
For all of his improprieties? For all of his typical-for-the-era vernacular?
Viewed through the lens of 1960s America-- LBJ did the right thing in so many more ways than almost every other 20th century POTUS.
Independent of your damning critique of the man?
His legislative legacies outstrip every POTUS that followed-- until now.
I might recommend a loosening of that tinfoil thorny crown.
jw1
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A library created to memorialize someone. Yeah, thatās a good place to go fact checking.
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Change āSelmaā to āJFK Assassinationā and that career criminal Califano would be right about LBJ.
All of yr ridiculous revisionist history and bootlicking of the bigoted LBJ aside, he was behind the coup to oust JFK. He was even implicated in a deathbed confession from one of the FBI gents in on it, E. Howard Hunt. Hunt also named Bush sr, who claims he doesnāt know where he was when the hit occurred, (laughable); Nixon and Gerald Ford. It seems like all of the jackals were rewarded for their silence. No one who isnāt a slack jawed idiot thinks LBJ was a good president. NO ONE.
It might not have itself been his āideaā specifically as to any particulars but he was supportive of MLK pressuring the country by means of protest so that LBJ could step in and say āsee, we need to do this ā¦ see the alternative?ā If this is hard to believe, listen to some of the LBJ tapes.
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You refer to one of the convicted Watergate āPlumbersā-- co-conspirator E. Howard Hunt?
Izzat you G. Gordon Liddy?
BTW? Hunt served in the OSS and CIA. But not the FBI.
Maybe you should revise where you get your history.
jw1
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Welcome out of town Shriners and Wacco Birds!
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HAHAHA! Riiiiiightā¦one word: Hoover.
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I donāt. Not at all. Just because it might have been his idea doesnāt mean that his motives were entirely beneficent and altruistic. LBJ was, first and foremost, a political animal.
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Are you suggesting that all of the archived documentation is falsified and forged? That the negative crap documented in his library is just faked to mislead us?
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